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sergeyken
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:05 pm
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Both SORT utilities have more than 95% common in syntax, and 100% common in ideology of used algorithms (maybe, with different implementation inside of them).

I do not see any reason to strictly separate the questions on both utilities into different categories, or to "punish" or "blame" the users posting their SORT questions in a parallel category?
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:02 pm
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once upon a time

DFSORT answers were provided by the IBM DFSORT developers
( Frank Yaeger and S. Kolusu )

and
SYSNCSORT answer were provided by SYNCSORT support
( Alissa Margulies )

so it made sense to keep the forum separate
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steve-myers

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:56 pm
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At one level I agree with Sergeyken, but while the two products are similar, they are not identical; answers that are correct for DFSORT may not be correct for SYNCSORT and answers that are correct for SYNCSORT may not be correct for DFSORT. For this reason I think the products should be discussed in separate areas, if only so the chances that a questioner should get a valid response are greater.
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sergeyken
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:03 pm
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steve-myers wrote:
while the two products are similar, they are not identical; answers that are correct for DFSORT may not be correct for SYNCSORT and answers that are correct for SYNCSORT may not be correct for DFSORT.

The meaning of this is, that people do not receive advices in the form: what operation, and why needs to be done, but instead what statement/parameter/letter/digit/comma to type-in in the given order. Or even they receive a ready-to-copy-and-paste code without a minor understanding of the actual idea of processing.

I call this category of answers "the advices for trained monkeys".

The general processing logic to understand is 100% the same for both utilities. Those who cannot apply specific syntax to a common algorithm need to be forwarded to the Beginners Forum.
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