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sandip_mainframe Warnings : 2 New User
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 63 Location: pune
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Hi All,
I want to create a report on monthly basis to find out total space utilizaton by individual tso userids for my team.
How this can achieved are there any system logs from there we can fetch this information for all tso user ids.
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Sandip Walsinge
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Akatsukami
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Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Posts: 1787 Location: Bloomington, IL
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Why yes, there are a multitude of data available.
Now, are you looking for high-water mark usage, time-weighted average usafe, point-in-time usage, or something else? |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 6248 Location: Mumbai, India
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Possibly, get a report of obselete/current DSNs created by someone else, which are huge in nature - (tell, I've found them, and claim for DASD savings! not memory by the way) |
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sandip_mainframe Warnings : 2 New User
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 63 Location: pune
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I am looking for a total memory sapce utilised by datasets which are created by that tso user id. |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 6966 Location: porcelain throne
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I am looking for a total memory sapce utilised by datasets which are created by that tso user id. |
total memory utilized will only be during execution of a program/utility
that accesses these ds.
so, unless a job is running that utilize one of these datasets
during the time you collect your statistics (how ever you do it)
total memory utilized will be zero. |
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Robert Sample
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Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 8700 Location: Dubuque, Iowa, USA
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total memory sapce utilised by datasets |
The answer to this is quite simple -- the total memory used will be ZERO. Memory is part of the CPU and is only accessed by the system. Disk space is used by the data sets and is not memory.
Terminology is critical in IT, where similar terms may mean very different things. Memory and disk space are not interchangeable terms.
Further, even if you meant disk space -- you still have not clearly indicated what you are wanting. Do you want to know what the user ids have allocated today -- at a particular time or just whenever the collection job gets its information? The average allocated space for a day / week /month / year / some other time period? The maximum allocated space by the user id for a day / week / month / year / some other time period? Something else entirely? |
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enrico-sorichetti
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Joined: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 10886 Location: italy
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the best thing to do is to ask Your storage support,
unless they are completely <...> this kind of accounting has been in place every where for ages |
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Akatsukami
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Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Posts: 1787 Location: Bloomington, IL
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sandip_mainframe wrote: |
I am looking for a total memory sapce utilised by datasets which are created by that tso user id. |
No doubt. However, consider the following scenario: TSO ID LUSER has, at 1 September 0001, a single data set LUSER.FOO that uses one cylinder. At 29 September 0001, it creates a second data set LUSER.BAR that uses 100 cylinders; that data set is deleted at 30 September 0001. If the report is run 1 October 0001, should it show LUSER as using:
- 1 cylinder
- 101 cylinders
- 4.33 cylinders/day
- 130 cylinder-days
- Something else
(Data sets, of course, do not use memory, they use DASD or tape. However, I'm passing over this mere misuse of terminology to start getting at more fundamental questions.) |
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sandip_mainframe Warnings : 2 New User
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 63 Location: pune
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Thanks to all of you for your suggestions, I got to the way to do it.
Let's say my userid is - ABCD123, by giving my user id like
ABCD123.* it will give list of all datasets created by my userid and by save as command it will save all then info in dataset
ABCD123.AS.DATASETS it will have information about how tracks are alloacted and how much % is used. Form that dataset by sort job I can find the total space used.
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Sandip Walsinge |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 6248 Location: Mumbai, India
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sandip_mainframe wrote: |
ABCD123.AS.DATASETS |
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Marso
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Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 1353 Location: Israel
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My userid is ABCD123, but I'm working on project XYZ, and I have created a huge file named XYZ.MY.DATA
Will you be able to catch me ??? |
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dick scherrer
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 19243 Location: Inside the Matrix
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Hello,
Did you consider the questions asked by Akatsukami?
Your solution will get a "snapshot" of what is allocated at that exact moment but may not show what you are looking for. If all you need is a "current use", this may work well for you.
The AS may be their local convention. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 6248 Location: Mumbai, India
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But
dick scherrer wrote: |
The AS may be their local convention. |
ISPF 3.4/SAVE LIST won't tell you all this:
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ABCD123.AS.DATASETS it will have information about how tracks are alloacted and how much % is used. |
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dick scherrer
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 19243 Location: Inside the Matrix
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Hi Anuj,
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ISPF 3.4/SAVE LIST won't tell you all this:
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ABCD123.AS.DATASETS it will have information about how tracks are alloacted and how much % is used. |
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With the exception of the "AS" a SAVE of a list does tell us "all this". I've used this on quite a few systems, so possibly i misunderstand something?
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Pete Wilson
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Joined: 31 Dec 2009 Posts: 590 Location: London
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The previous suggestion to talk to you Storage people should be heeded first
but...
ISPF 3.4 now has an option to total the tracks allocated by all the datasets in the list (at that point in time). Just page right once the list comes up.
Option ===>
blank Display data set list P Print data set list
V Display VTOC information PV Print VTOC informati
Enter one or both of the parameters below:
Dsname Level . . . ABCD123.**
Volume serial . .
Data set list options
Initial View Enter "/" to select option
1 1. Volume / Confirm Data Set Delete
2. Space / Confirm Member Delete
3. Attrib / Include Additional Qualifiers
4. Total Display Catalog Name
Display Total Tracks
You can also get totals from ISMF;1 by entering LISTPRT on a resultant list. The output file has totals at the end (in KB I think) |
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dick scherrer
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 19243 Location: Inside the Matrix
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Hi Anuj,
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ISPF 3.4/SAVE LIST won't tell you all this: |
I believe i may have caused a bit of confusion
If 4 is used here (along with the "select option" slashes):
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Data set list options
Initial View Enter "/" to select option
1 1. Volume / Confirm Data Set Delete
2. Space / Confirm Member Delete
3. Attrib / Include Additional Qualifiers
4. Total / Display Catalog Name
/ Display Total Tracks
Prefix Dsname Level
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the space info as well as other info is saved into the file. |
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expat
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Joined: 14 Mar 2007 Posts: 8796 Location: Welsh Wales
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Do you also need to include datasets that have been migrated ? |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 6248 Location: Mumbai, India
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Thanks Dick.
"option 4" was never used as default among others, at the shops I had been to, so it was not that obvious to me. |
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dick scherrer
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 19243 Location: Inside the Matrix
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Hi Expat,
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Do you also need to include datasets that have been migrated ? |
Sure as so much is migrated these days
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