Problem in defining new cics terminals

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

hi all
i m facing problem in defining CICS terminals
i have defined cics terminal in a certain group
when i stop the cics and restart it again some of these terminals are automatically installed and some not
why should this problem probably happen
thanks in advance
Alaa

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:20 pm

Why define when you can autoinstall?

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

hi william
due to security reasons we don't rely on the autoinstall and we prefer to statically install each terminals CICS & its associated LU name
waiting for your feedback
thanks alot

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:42 pm

Do you define and install within RDO?
Do you cold start after defining?

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

i use the usual cics panels in defining CICS terminals
i don't make any starts after definitions . after installation i usually find the terminals already acquired without need to restart CICS
anyway when i start the CICS i don't provide any extra parameters . i leave it to defaults. i don't know whether this a cold or warm start

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:28 pm

IIRC, define and install, good. If not installed, normal warm starts will not look at the CSD for additional defined terms, only activating those that were already installed.

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

please tell me what does these abbreviations mean
IIRC
CSD
RDO

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:58 pm

If I Recall Correctly....

Resource definition online (RDO): This method uses the CICS-supplied online transactions CEDA, CEDB, and CEDC. Definitions are stored on the CICS system definition (CSD) file, and installed into an active CICS system from the CSD file.

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

william
i think i have many missing concepts in cics

do u have a simple book for getting started in CICS system administration
i hope i can find nice resource (& not ibm manual

) for cics
you can contact me directly on my mail if u want
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thanks alot

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

for example
where can i find the CSD file
how can i use JCL to administrate CICS creations,installing , deleting....
is there any RACF privilige i should give to my TSO user to do these CICS tasks via TSO
i would like to confess is that i m the worst CICS adminsitrator ever

i appreciate hardly your help to me
Alaa

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:14 pm

I don't have a simple book for administration, your best bet would be to start with Chapter 1. Introducing resource definition in CICS Transaction Server for z/OS CICS System Definition Guide (SC34-6428).

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

thanks for the book
can you please help me in my questions

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

by the way sorry for adding my mail
i didn't know this is against the rules

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:28 pm

No problem, but you really should Read Forum Rules...

amfarrag · New User Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 41

what about these ? can u help me in them ?

William Thompson · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:54 pm

Sorry, I missed them..
I do believe that the CSD is defined in the FCT, you should be able to find it with CEMT. Generally you are better off working directly with CICS but there are ways to update via JCL.
Unless you want things to get really messed up, keep others out of the CSD.
Assuming you have a CICS that is currently running, the best experience will come in time.