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Aaru

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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Hi,

I have been asked to mentor few guys in my project for a deployment. All my project mates are very new to mainframes I have very limited time to make them comfortable with mainframes.

Please throw some light on the JCL concepts to be taught from the deployment's perspective.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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deployment's perspective.


could You please explain better the quoted sentence
I am too old to start trying to understand all this b****speak icon_biggrin.gif

.... but whatever You imply by that sentence all depends on the role of the new guys
and what side of the fence... the delivery side or the receiving side ??
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject:
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Hi,

The way question is constructed, I don't have much to say, however, this is what i've read somwhere
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fundamental objective of any application compatibility testing and deployment project is to successfully deploy applications that are compatible with the new operating system. To plan your application deployment project, you must first define the project scope and objectives. To do this, you need to conduct an inventory of the software currently in use in your organization, and then analyze this information to determine the constraints and risks of the compatibility testing project. You can use this information to begin creating the deployment project plan.


Suggest make a picture of all those JCL concepts you are likely to use most of the time in this project, then preapare a questionnaire on those - put those infront of them & ask how comfortable they are. Before next seesion give them enough time to get familiar with what is discuessed in first.

Umm..'am getting quite philosphical but this is way I'd been working with the new comers under me.

Hope I didn't bore you..
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

Hopefully, the project or the system has jcl standards already in place.

I'd focus on having them understand "the rules" and make sure that no excursions into creativity take place.

The jcl that goes into production should be consistent and straightforward.

One area i'd suggest be given extra attention is the disposition parameter on all of the DD statements that point to files (rather than //SYSxxxx). Many people new to jcl get terribly wrapped up getting the catalog and the files out of sync.

Another is how condition codes are processed.

Lastly, if the system uses cataloged procedures, i'd make sure they understood how symbolic variables are resolved.

To practice working with porcs, datasets and condition codes, i'd suggest having them set up a few test jobstreams that create/read/delete some datasets (a "common" dsn that includes each individual's uid or something else to separate them).

Having said all of that, what will be their responsibilities?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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Enrico,

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and what side of the fence... the delivery side or the receiving side ??


Delivery.

Anuj,


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then preapare a questionnaire on those - put those infront of them & ask how comfortable they are. Before next seesion give them enough time to get familiar with what is discuessed in first.


Thanks. But we actually don't have much time for that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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Dick,

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extra attention is the disposition parameter on all of the DD statements that point to files

Another is how condition codes are processed.

system uses cataloged procedures, i'd make sure they understood how symbolic variables are resolved.




This is exactly what i wanted. Thanks a ton.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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You're welcome icon_smile.gif

Someone will be here if there are new "opportunities".

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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it looks like the plans were delayed,
and some round head thought that dropping in new people would solve everything

more than often is just a political move, to save the sales ***,
they will be able in this way to blame the onsite project leader..
"we gave You the resources, now it' s Your problem"

from my experience dropping in unexperienced people at the last minute
more often cause delays, rather than help keep the schedule
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Imp JCL Concepts for a Deployment Project
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Enrico,

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from my experience dropping in unexperienced people at the last minute
more often cause delays, rather than help keep the schedule


Very True.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject:
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"But we actually don't have much time for that."
Which reminds me of one of my favorite sayings:
If you don't have time to do it right, where are you going to find the time to do it over? icon_smile.gif
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