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Duplicate transid's declared using CEDA


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DONNA GRAVES

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:32 am
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I have deined several transid's using CEDA for my group. Recently someone else, in a different group, defined some of the same transids as mine. When they installed, they overrode my definitions and their transids pointed to different programs.
I don't understand how 2 transids with the same name, with 2 different groupnames, can override the other. Unless the other person didn't define using a groupname?

Is there a setting in CEDA to ensure that the transids are part of different groups?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:40 pm
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I should clarify that when the other person used CEDA to define their transids, it didn't delete my same transids in CEDA. When they then did an INstall, then it overrode mine. So my students ended up running their transactions
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:50 am
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What you have described is normal behavior for CICS. From the manual www.ibm.com/docs/en/cics-ts/5.6?topic=installation-duplicate-resource-definition-names
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If you INSTALL a group while CICS is active, the resource definitions in the group override any of the same type and name already installed. When an existing resource definition is replaced in this way, the statistics associated with the old resource definition are transferred to the new definition. If a PROGRAM definition is replaced, the program is relocated on the library and loaded when the new definition is referenced for the first time. In effect, the new definition implies a NEWCOPY operation. The same rules apply to map sets and partition sets.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:42 am
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Thank you for your reply. In my instance, I defined a transid in one group another person defined the same named transid in a different group. Should it still replace when they are in different groups?
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