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Ali_gezer

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:43 pm
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Hello friends.

I know that pressing in the line command of ispf BR and posing the cursor at the particular file, you can have a quick screen with BROWSE.
There is a way to do this with view or edit, to go directly to another screen with the particular file?

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Willy Jensen

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 2:36 am
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BR must be a local command, it is not part of ISPF. So you need to contact your local sysprog and ask if there might be something similar for edit and view. Have you tried ED and VI ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:02 am
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Willy Jensen wrote:
BR must be a local command, it is not part of ISPF. So you need to contact your local sysprog and ask if there might be something similar for edit and view. Have you tried ED and VI ?


Thanks for replying me.
Yes, I tried with ed and vi and nothing worked. So I see that this is a program, Is a rexx ?

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:08 am
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BR must be an ISPF command table entry executing a program or a script, and you can't determine the program/script name nor language from the command name. Though it will probably be a CLIST or a REXX,
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:12 am
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You could try placing the cursor on a datasetname (in z/OS they are called datasets, not files) and enter TSO BR on the command line.
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Ali_gezer

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:44 am
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Willy Jensen wrote:
You could try placing the cursor on a datasetname (in z/OS they are called datasets, not files) and enter TSO BR on the command line.


I entered TSO edit and it let me create some dataset.
Is there a way to see the tso command list? I mean, commands like this, like tso edit, or tso br created by rexx or clist?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:35 am
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Ali_gezer wrote:
Willy Jensen wrote:
You could try placing the cursor on a datasetname (in z/OS they are called datasets, not files) and enter TSO BR on the command line.


I entered TSO edit and it let me create some dataset.
Is there a way to see the tso command list? I mean, commands like this, like tso edit, or tso br created by rexx or clist?

TSO is logically equivalent to the PC DOS.
ISPF is equivalent to Windows.

Can you edit a text file in PC DOS?
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:47 am
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re: "Is there a way to see the tso command list?"

TSO commands can be load modules or CLIST or REXX. And they are intermixed with any other load modules, CLISTs, or REXX that are not intended to be used as TSO commands.

To see everything, you can browse the data sets in your SYSPROC and SYSEXEC concatenations. Also, you can browse SYS1.LINKLIB and SYS1.LPALIB (and their concatenations). That is, it is not simple to find which are TSO commands.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:55 am
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re: "TSO is logically equivalent to the PC DOS." ‚Äč
and "I entered TSO edit "

I think you have to consider context. The poster was in ISPF and entered, into the "Command ==>" field, the command that tells ISPF that it is not processed by ISPF but rather by TSO.

Yes, TSO does have an EDIT command. It is archaic and I do not recommend using it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 10:07 am
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Willy Jensen wrote:
BR must be a local command, it is not part of ISPF.

It is part of the CBTTAPE.org collection.

Code:
//*  BR        TSO command - Browse most data sets under            *   FILE 183
//*            ISPF/PDF, using BRIF.  Supports VSAM, BDAM,          *   FILE 183
//*            multi-volume, RECFM=VBS, BLKSIZE=0, etc.             *   FILE 183
//*                                                                 *   FILE 183
//*            To use it, just enter BR instead of B on the         *   FILE 183
//*            Data Set List utility screen.  BR has its own        *   FILE 183
//*            point-and-shoot capability and can grab a dsname     *   FILE 183
//*            on the screen, wherever the cursor is located.       *   FILE 183
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:00 pm
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Probably not the answer you were hoping for...
TSO built-in commands are documented in z/OS TSO/E Command Reference.
ISPF is documented in z/OS ISPF User's Guide Vol I and z/OS ISPF User's Guide Vol II.
Those manuals are found at z/OS Internet Library here
And on top of that each installation has a ton of locally written or downloaded or purchased programs, written in a number of different languages.

@Jorg, the BR command from CBT file 183 is a different beast from most implementations of point-and-shoot browse/edit that I have seen. Most of these, my own included, are REXX just using ISPF screen variables to pull the datasetname.
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