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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:23 pm
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i'm trying to use smcopy to copy datasets. here's my syntax

smc fds(mydataset.data1) tds(mydataset.data2)

i'm getting the following error:

smcopy record format of data set not consistent with operation being performed

i see the new mydataset.data2 was created but it's empty.

what could be wrong.

is there any other copy utilities that i can copy in the foreground?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:32 pm
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smcopy is not a general use utility,
IIRC it was used to copy the TSO session manager log datasets

why not use the dataset copy option from the utilities ?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:00 am
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When I use SMCOPY, I always check to see that TODATASET exists.

If it does not, I ALLOCate in my Rexx program first.

You can use the LIKE operand if you wish.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:08 am
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enrico-sorichetti wrote:
smcopy is not a general use utility,
IIRC it was used to copy the TSO session manager log datasets

why not use the dataset copy option from the utilities ?


sometimes i just want to copy a dataset w/o launching jcl. i just want to do it dynamically in the foreground.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:08 am
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daveporcelan wrote:
When I use SMCOPY, I always check to see that TODATASET exists.

If it does not, I ALLOCate in my Rexx program first.

You can use the LIKE operand if you wish.


does the todataset need to exist first as a prereq before i can issue this command?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:22 am
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does the todataset need to exist first as a prereq before i can issue this command?


I am unsure about that. That is why...see above

I was assuming this is part of a Rexx exec. Is that correct?

If not then perhaps options 3.2 (allocate) and 3.3 (copy) would be an option.

Alternatively, I use DUP next to the from dataset in 3.4. I do not know if you have that available at your shop.

I am unsure if that is IBM or how our shop acquired it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:36 am
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daveporcelan wrote:
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does the todataset need to exist first as a prereq before i can issue this command?


I am unsure about that. That is why...see above

I was assuming this is part of a Rexx exec. Is that correct?

If not then perhaps options 3.2 (allocate) and 3.3 (copy) would be an option.

Alternatively, I use DUP next to the from dataset in 3.4. I do not know if you have that available at your shop.

I am unsure if that is IBM or how our shop acquired it.


not rexx. just dynamically/interactively copying dataset on the fly in tso
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 am
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3.2 (allocate) and 3.3 (copy)


no need ... 3.3 if the dataset does not exists will ask You to proceed with the
allocation
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:48 am
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Did you try:

3.2 Look at the FROM Dataset to get a 'picture' of the parameters
3.2 Allocate TO Dataset
3.3 Copy FROM - TO


Never mind. Enrico is correct. 3.3 prompts you to allocate new dataset with options.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:49 am
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even when i pre-allocate the todataset, it keeps saying i need to define LRECL and RECFM


what's an example of SMC with these DCBs. i tried to add these but kept getting errors
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:50 am
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sorry but am not trying to do via panels or ISPF.

this is from the command line using TSO commands in the foreground
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:53 am
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sorry but am not trying to do via panels or ISPF.

this is from the command line using TSO commands in the foreground

Don't know. Never tried just issuing the command.

Sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:10 am
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OK. So I tried it from Option 6 (should have done that the first time)

Code:
                              ISPF Command Shell
Enter TSO or Workstation commands below:

===> smc fds(TEMP.XXX.SYSIN) tds(TEMP.XXX.SYSIN2)

DATA SET TEMP.XXX.SYSIN2 NOT IN CATALOG OR CATALOG CAN NOT BE ACCESSED
OUTPUT DATA SET NOT FOUND - ASSUMED TO BE NEW
***


The new dataset was allocated correctly, and the data was copied.
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