How to find the online pgms are using in our system or not?

suresh111 · New User Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 17

Hi,

Could any one please suggest me, how to find the active online transactions. As per my requrement, some of the online programs impacted but I am not sure whether they are currently using in our system or not.

I have verified through the CEMT transaction for all those programs with their Transaction ID and observed that all are in enable status.

we had a discussion with SME. He said that, though those transactions are in enable status we may not use them in our system.

Technically is there any way to find what are the programs using in our system and what are all not using in our system?

Thanks in advance,

Best Regards,
Suresh

Pandora-Box · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:17 pm

enrico-sorichetti · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:23 pm

the only reasonable thing to do is to straighten up / fix Your organization poor habits.

there is noo way to decide on program/transaction usage apart looking at a well maintained application documentation
and the relative development/deployment/decommissioning log

for a proper technical only cleanup/scrub You would need at lest TWO years of performance/utilization/accounting data

suresh111 · New User Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 17

Hi Pandora,

Using in our systems mean account (project)

Thanks,
Suresh

Peter cobolskolan · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:43 pm

Try Google for CICS STATISTICS.
As far as I remember, the transaction statistics will help you.

dick scherrer · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:23 pm

Hello,

Something that some of my clients have done is disable transactions that should not be used on a system. Keep everything in place, but prevent use.

If someone tries to invoke the transaction, it will abend.

Not my favorite "solution", but can be effective. Also, how long a period of "disabled" is grounds for removal?

akodakka · New User Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 75 Location: India

Hi

CEMT I PROG(PROGNAME)

this will give the counts the program ran in the region. If the program USE increases then your program is using by the system OR running in the region.

dick scherrer · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:50 pm

Hello,

That is fine for "today" but i believe a longer "history" is wanted.

akodakka · New User Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 75 Location: India

Hi

Yes this can only be used based on when your CICS regions refresh or bounces. You need to check the frequency of the region bounce.

akodakka · New User Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 75 Location: India

As another approach if you have CICS history avaialble in anywhere and if your program doesn't have a PPT entry defined and its dynamically getting created , Check if the PPT entries are created in your history of CICS region.

something like this

suresh111 · New User Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 17

Hi akodakka,

Thanks for your help, but I tried with one active program and one inactive programs but I got the below response for both.

for active program:
I PROG(PAL2701L)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(PAL2701L) NOT FOUND

for inactive program:
I PROG(PAL2319L)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(PAL2319L) NOT FOUND

I am not sure why I am getting Message "NOT FOUND" for both active and inactive programs

Best Regards,
Suresh

Pandora-Box · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:56 pm

Is the program defined and Installed ?

suresh111 · New User Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 17

yes the active program was defined and also installed

Simone Salzmann · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:41 pm

Suresh,
Provided there are multiple CICS regions at your site - did you do the CEMT in the one where the program was defined and installed?

enrico-sorichetti · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:41 pm

too many useless answers here ...