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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:23 pm
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Hi,

I have a requirement to convert CSP (Cross System Product) language programs to COBOL (/CICS).

Could you please provide some Tips/ documents which can help to understand the relation between CSP and COBOL(/CICS).
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:28 am
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Hello and welcome to the forum,

There are several topics that talk about CSP in the forum. Use the SEARCH (above in the blue bar) and csp as the search keyword.

Read these topics and see if there is anything you can use.
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:04 pm
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Hi D.sch,

I have gone through the posts that are on THE site. But, I didn't find any information that is related to conversion/migration of CSP programs.

I would like to know, how to identify online and batch CSP programs and how convert them to COBOL(/CICS). If possible, please provide sample code. And also, provide some information about know risk/issues that are need to be considered while converting CSP code to COBOL/CICS.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:21 am
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Hello,

None of the organizations i've worked with in many years is using csp (i called a few and asked).

IIRC, we have a few forum members who have experience, but not many.

I suspect someone (you?) will have to wade thru the existing processes, document what they do, and write specs for cobol/cics. If the csp application(s) are like most, there are several kinds of processes that are used over and over (a simple inquiry, an inquiry/update, a scrolling inquiry, a scrolling inquiry/update, etc). Each would become a model or shell to be cloned as needed.

The good news is that all of the business rules are known and working.
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UmeySan

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:23 pm
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@ sbrayudu

Morning Sir !

I developed with CSP about 20 years ago. After IBM had detected years later, that there had never been this consumer acceptance that they had assumed, they self-developed a conversation-tool to transform CPS-Programs to Cobol-Code. The generated Code was Cobol, but don't talk about the possibility to modify this generated code easily.

Online-, CICS-Transaktions will have map-set specifications. Online, that's what CSP was made for, because of the integrated map-processor.

CSP and Cobol, in this related context i remember the names visual-gen and visual-age from IBM. perhaps have a closer look for that.
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lindovaldolpn

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:19 pm
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I have been working with tool that you can use to migrate from (csp 3.x, csp 4x, Visual Gen ou Visual AGE) to Cobol/CICS.
My input file is ESF(External source format) and output file are(Source Cobol, BMS Macro simple or BMS Macro(SDFII) and copy books when necessary.
All processes of I-O are converted.
Inquiry -> Select or Declare cursor, depend on some characteristics
Best regards
Lindovaldo, Brazil
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:06 pm
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Hi Lindovaldo,

Could you pls provide some documents related to CSP to Cobol migration, if any.

Regards,
Sarath.
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lindovaldolpn

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:00 pm
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Hi, Sarath.

I have some documents about it but these documentes were written in portugueses and I need translate to english before to send to you.

Regards,

Lindovaldo
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:12 pm
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Hi Lindovaldo,

Thank you very much. If you could help me with documents that will be very helpful.
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:14 pm
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Hi Lindovaldo,

I would like to know the structure of CSP programs. Could you please provide some CSP and CSP/DB2 programs.

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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:29 pm
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Quote:
I have a requirement to convert CSP (Cross System Product) language programs to COBOL (/CICS).


Quote:
I would like to know the structure of CSP programs. Could you please provide some CSP and CSP/DB2 programs.


odd request...
if you are converting, what about looking at the program You have to convert icon_eek.gif
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:06 pm
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Hi Lindovaldo/All,

I never saw CSP program and want to look at CSP programs.

We will be getting new requirement to convert CSP to COBOL. So, I would like to see/know CSP programs.

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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:11 pm
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Hello,

Why can you not look at the csp programs you are going to convert. . . icon_confused.gif

Someone in the organization already knows these processes.
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sbrayudu

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:27 pm
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thanks
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