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Chase
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I have used IDCAMS alter to change the management class for a flat file but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it for a GDG. I thought it would be the same.
alter xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxxx managementclass(xxxx)
but it won't work. Can I alter a GDG base ? |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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| Can I alter a GDG base ? |
what happened when you tried?
or have you stopping thinking and using initiative and
are just now generally requesting others do your thinking and work,
without the pay? |
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Chase
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| dbzTHEdinosauer wrote: |
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| Can I alter a GDG base ? |
what happened when you tried?
or have you stopping thinking and using initiative and
are just now generally requesting others do your thinking and work,
without the pay? |
Wow, not sure what I said to cause you to post that. I assure you I put every effort into my work and my job before I ask for any help whatsoever.
I spent several hours trying several different things yesterday and I have searched every where on the net. If there's an answer it's not easy to find.
I have tried
ALTER XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
Which gave me this.
SMS CONSTRUCT MANAGEMENTCLASS SPECIFIED FOR NON-SMS MANAGED
OBJECT
even though it is SMS managed.
ALTER GDG XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
IDC3211I KEYWORD 'XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX' IS IMPROPER
MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12
ALTER NONVSAM XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
IDC3211I KEYWORD 'XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX' IS IMPROPER
MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
IDC3202I ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND. CONDITION CODE IS 12
And several others. |
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enrico-sorichetti
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ALTER XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
Which gave me this.
SMS CONSTRUCT MANAGEMENTCLASS SPECIFIED FOR NON-SMS MANAGED
OBJECT
even though it is SMS managed. |
in these cases I tend to trust more the system judgement that the user' s one  |
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Chase
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| enrico-sorichetti wrote: |
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ALTER XXXX.XXXX.XXXXX.XXXXX MANAGEMENTCLASS(xxxx)
Which gave me this.
SMS CONSTRUCT MANAGEMENTCLASS SPECIFIED FOR NON-SMS MANAGED
OBJECT
even though it is SMS managed. |
in these cases I tend to trust more the system judgement that the user' s one |
It is SMS managed. I've triple checked it. It's something to do with it being a GDG base dataset. |
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CICS Guy
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| Chase wrote: |
| Can I alter a GDG base ? |
I'd say no....
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| SMS CONSTRUCT MANAGEMENTCLASS SPECIFIED FOR NON-SMS MANAGED OBJECT |
The way I see it is that the GDG base is not SMS managed, only the actual physical generations are...... |
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enrico-sorichetti
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from the the original post
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SUBJECT :Altering the management class of a GDG dataset
I have used IDCAMS alter to change the management class for a flat file but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do it for a GDG. I thought it would be the same.
alter xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxxx managementclass(xxxx)
but it won't work. Can I alter a GDG base ? |
please learn to post using a consistent terminology....
what do You want to alter ???
a GDG dataset AKA a generation
a GDG base
and also if You had posted a more comprehensible dataset masking pattern it would have been easier to diagnose the issue
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| I have searched every where on the net |
but only in the wrong places
if You had looked at the manual You would have found that ...
publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2I281/5.1?SHELF=DGT2BK91&DT=20100120113849
contains the answer to Your question
why didn' You post also the message id for the message talking about the non SMS object,
it would have made things easier for people willing to help
please do not insist...
if the system tells that something is not an SMS managed OBJECT
the system is right and You are wrong FULL STOP
read
catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
on how to make the most out of the questions You ask |
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Chase
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I belonged to this forum years ago and found it quite helpful. I couldn't remember my member id and re-registered.
I don't remember it being this unfriendly.
You can remove my profile please and thanks. |
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dick scherrer
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Hello Chase and welcome back to the forum,
One of the changes since you were last here is that there are more and more posters who are completely unwilling and/or unable to do anything for themself. . . Look around and observe the volume of topics that demonstrate this. That population is still on the increase.
Some of our more senior contributors demonstrate a lot of frustration over people who have entered this profession with no idea of how to be a professional (or possibly even no desire to be).
We also see many posts where a newbie is sure the system is not working correctly. . . With the exception of some issues with pl/i, these are 99.999% the user, but many will not accept this 
When a "new" user posts a question that appears there has been no background work done, the replies are sometimes meant to be a wake-up call. The idea being that our forum can be very useful, but should be used correctly.
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| I belonged to this forum years ago and found it quite helpful |
We still provide quite a lot of help - sometimes maybe too much, sometimes maybe too little (opinions vary) 
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nevilh
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| We still provide quite a lot of help |
Quite right but unfortunately recently the help has been interspersed with an unnecessary(my opinion) level of abuse and personal criticism |
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