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VenkataRao G
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Hi ,
I want to find out the users who logged in to the Mainframe on a perticular day.
I hope it is possible with SMF details.
Ex: I want to know who are all the users logged on to the system on 2nd, Mar 2010.
Thank you for your help in advance.
If you need any additional information, Please let me know. |
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PeterHolland
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SMF :
Record Type 32 (20) — TSO/E User Work Accounting |
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Robert Sample
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| I'm sure the SMF record type 20 will give you what you want. However, I think your requirement is a bit fuzzy. My TSO user id, for example, doesn't expire -- as a system programmer, I need to be able to access the system so after an IPL when I log in, I don't log out (usually) until the next IPL. So even though I didn't log on March 2nd, I did use the system extensively that day -- so do I count or not in your numbers? If you go only by the type 20 records, I won't have one for March 2nd. |
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Robert Sample
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| Actually, Peter, type 32 does not have TSO/E login information -- that's in the type 20 (Job Initiation) records. |
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dick scherrer
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Decimal 32 = x'20'?
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Robert Sample
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| x'14' has job initiation, x'20' has TSO/E log out data, such as commands issued. |
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lokesh vasanthi
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Hi,
I am not familiar with the above you all talking about, Is anybody telle me what is SMF and where to give to see the users logging.
Thanks in advance.
Nanda |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
SMF is where system activity is recorded.
Suggest you talk with the system support people as they already use SMF data (most likely) and can show you some local examples. |
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Robert Sample
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| System Management Facility (SMF) data is complex, often goes down to the bit level, and requires a lot of time to understand. Most sites also have tools that summarize and analyze it, so contacting your site support group (as Dick suggested) is, by far, your best bet for getting what you need. |
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Craq Giegerich
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| Check with your Security People, they may already have that info. Just be ready to answer why you need it and have someone above you to vouch for your need. |
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expat
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| The type 30 INTERVAL records should have that information, but then it all depends on the collection criteria set up by your systems programmers. |
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PeterHolland
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| Robert Sample wrote: |
| Actually, Peter, type 32 does not have TSO/E login information -- that's in the type 20 (Job Initiation) records. |
Hello Robert,
thats right Record Type 32 (20) is for accounting purposes.
Record Type 30 (1E) gives start/stop information.
But Record Type 32 (20) has that information too if i remember well. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| nandakumar selvaraj wrote: |
| I am not familiar with the above you all talking about, Is anybody telle me what is SMF and where to give to see the users logging. |
If this is what your reaction is - you should not be doing this work, at least at this moment of your knowledge...fwiw.
PS. My statement is not to challange someone's knowledge but the kind of work you ask for must be done by some system-programmer or RACF-admin...dealing with SMF data is far beyond the scope of an Application Programmer... |
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PeterHolland
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| Anuj Dhawan wrote: |
| nandakumar selvaraj wrote: |
| I am not familiar with the above you all talking about, Is anybody telle me what is SMF and where to give to see the users logging. |
If this is what your reaction is - you should not be doing this work, at least at this moment of your knowledge...fwiw.
PS. My statement is not to challange someone's knowledge but the kind of work you ask for must be done by some system-programmer or RACF-admin...dealing with SMF data is far beyond the scope of an Application Programmer... |
Anuj,
i thought the S in SMF meant "Simple". Even I could work with the stuff. |
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expat
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As usual, the wheel reinvention society appears to be holding another convention.
The information is almost certainly already available from the capacity and/or performance people. The tracking of TSO ids is usually done as a matter of course, especially if the time is billable.
In 99.9% of cases a simple request to these peole will give the desired information without having a second, or third, or ad infinitum wheel collection. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| PeterHolland wrote: |
| Even I could work with the stuff. |
When the letter "I" in the above quote is equivalent to
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Retired Process Controller
Mainframe Skills: SA390, SAS, Assembler, IMS, TSO, ISPF,Technical Application Specialist, OPC, Netview |
I'm left with nothing to say, yes You CAN do it, I know  |
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PeterHolland
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| Anuj Dhawan wrote: |
| PeterHolland wrote: |
| Even I could work with the stuff. |
When the letter "I" in the above quote is equivalent to
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Retired Process Controller
Mainframe Skills: SA390, SAS, Assembler, IMS, TSO, ISPF,Technical Application Specialist, OPC, Netview |
I'm left with nothing to say, yes You CAN do it, I know |
Oops, i forgot about my CV.
Thanks a lot for your confidence in me. |
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expat
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| Anuj Dhawan wrote: |
| I'm left with nothing to say |
BIG GRIN and of course a refrain from comment |
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VenkataRao G
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Hi Robert and every one,
Thank you for your suggestions.
If you are logged into the system from IPL to Next IPL, I need your ID login to be recorded only on when you logged in.
Like that I need to generate reports.
Could you please give me JCL, which fulfills my requirement.
Please suggest me.
Your help is appreciated. |
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dick scherrer
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| Could you please give me JCL, which fulfills my requirement. |
No, we know nothing about your system. . . As Robert (and i) posted before:
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| Most sites also have tools that summarize and analyze it, so contacting your site support group (as Dick suggested) is, by far, your best bet for getting what you need. |
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| Please suggest me. |
Suggest you speak with the people in your organization that already have this info.
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| If you are logged into the system from IPL to Next IPL, I need your ID login to be recorded only on when you logged in. |
And (for what it is worth), this makes no sense. . . Where might such a "requirement" originate? Knowing only exactly when id's log on could only be used in some bad way. . . IMHO |
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