Jcl to check long running jobs in spool

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

Hi,

Can anyone help me with the below requirements.

I need to create a job which will monitor and notify about
1. the jobs running in spool for long time and
2. when more no of jobs are waiting in queue to run

superk · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:10 pm

How will your job access these details? Or, in other words, what program(s) or utilitiy(ies) will this process use?

enrico-sorichetti · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:11 pm

that' s just what schedulers and automation packages/products are for
You will find little help in reinventing the wheel!

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

Hi,

Can you let me know any utilities or automation packages that help me in achieving this. We have a CA7 scheduler in our system, but currently it does not notify us of any long running jobs or when queue is heavy.

i have some experience in JCL but i am not sure how to proceed for this requirement or what pgm i should use to achieve this.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

superk and enrico,

if i am not clear and more details are needed. kindly let me know.

PeterHolland · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:16 pm

Long running? 2 seconds, 5 minutes, 24 hours? First you have to define that, then you can for example use SMF information to get the long running jobs. The jobs waiting in queue are probably waiting for the long running jobs. Maybe long running job classes are defined, then find all the jobs with that class in SMF or jcl libraries. Just a few examples.

expat · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:26 pm

Peter, I believe this is a "instant analysis" type request rather than being able to get the stats from SMF at a later time.

But once again, an ill defined request. As you have said - we have no idea of what is long running. Come to think of it, when did jobs start to run in the spool anyway, I usually use an initiator.

PeterHolland · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:38 pm

expat,

splitting hairs huh? (about the spool thing)

enrico-sorichetti · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:43 pm

nahh

the proper term is... tetrapyloctomy

expat · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:45 pm

dick scherrer · Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:57 pm

Hello,

What do you want that cannot be seen in sdsf? (note, sdsf can be used in batch)

There are some sdsf/jcl topics in the forum.

You might also consider RMF. . .

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

Hi all,

Long running jobs meant jobs that go into looping due to some data issue or table contention.

In our system we have thruput agents defined for job names, so only one job can run at a time. Other jobs will be on hold to avoid contention with table. So there were cases where jobs keep looping or many jobs(usually > 1000) are there in queue waiting for it to complete.

Im not asking a solution for long running job. Im asking for a alarm job or monitor job which can notify if some job is running more than 10 mins or there are more than 1000 jobs in queue waiting to execute.

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

Dick,
My requirement can checked in SDSF. but it would require continuous monitoring. so i just wanted to automate it.
Any pgms or utilities or tools that i can use to achieve this.

dick scherrer · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:53 am

Hello,

Create a batch process that will check for what you want.

Once this works as a single submission, have it scheduled to run as needed (hourly, every 15 minutes, whatever works).

Personally, i believe time would be well spent preventing the problem rather than detecting it. Until the process(es) can be corrected, detection might help, but the best solution is to fix the processes.

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

I Posted in this forum so i can get some help in creating the batch process. Any materials u know that will help me in using sdsf in batch so i can read spool and check the data required like job running time or CPU time and no of jobs running in spool currently.

Can i achieve this using only JCL or REXX too? which one will be a better option, any idea.[/quote]

dick scherrer · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:39 am

Hello,

Well, you can't do this with only jcl - because jcl does exactly nothing. . . All jcl can do is execute programs.

As i mentioned earlier, there are some sdsf/jcl topics in the forum. Look thru some of these and find somethng close to what you want to do.

If you find something in these topics that is not clear, post what you found and your doubt. Someone will be able to clarify.

expat · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:42 pm

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

Expat,

thanks for your clarification. actually i posted this to know which program i should use to read SDSF in batch. As per Dick i tried searching for sdsf\jcl topics but i could not find any. May be i am searching in the wrong places. any links or materials regarding this will be of gr8 help.

dick scherrer · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:17 pm

Hello,

In the dark blue line near the top of the page, there is a SEARCH feature. When i use "sdsf" and "jcl" (without the quotes) as the keywords and click the "Search for all terms", i get "Search found 121 matches"

Suggest you look thru these and see if something is close to what you want to do.

Pedro · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:45 am

dick scherrer · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:59 am

What - you mean TIME=1440 shouldn't be used. . .

Terry Heinze · Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:29 am

Huzefa · New User Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Bangalore

this is what i was looking for.
www.ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?p=215959#215959