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krsk
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Can we run REXX exec in spool? Suppose I have one exec DE for deleting a dataset, I have to use it for deleting the datasets in one of the jobs in the spool.
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expat
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How do you mean run it in the spool ?
Do you perhaps mean to process JES elements ? |
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krsk
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It is like this, see if we have some job submitted like USERIDA, when we go into that, using ? in the left of jobname in the spool, then it displays some datasets, if we press s we can browse them. In the same way, I want a REXX program DE if I type DE instead of S, it should be deleted. Is it possible with REXX and ISPF in the spool?
I am new to REXX, so I do not have much idea on REXX.
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Garry Carroll
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| using ? in the left of jobname in the spool, then it displays some datasets, if we press s we can browse them. In the same way, I want a REXX program DE if I type DE instead of S, it should be deleted |
You want a function to delete selected spool files while is SDSF? If you display the job as (H)eld output and enter the ? You can then purge individual files.
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krsk
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Hello,
Yeah, but I want to develop my own REXX routine, I want to do some other programs also for renaming the files in spool etc.
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Bill Dennis
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The names you see when you do a '?' by a job are the DDNAMEs that created the spool output. You cannot change these names.
If you select output for viewing using the 'SE' command, you'll be in an EDIT window. You could use EDIT macros written in REXX to act upon dataset names found in the output. |
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krsk
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Hello,
Yeah! That is right. Renaming the files in the SPOOL is not possible.
I gave that by mistake, I wanted to mean an example.
The requirement is, I want to create my own REXX routines, for editing, browsing, deleting etc the files in SPOOL job, and I want to know how I can run it in SPOOL.
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Garry Carroll
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| I want to create my own REXX routines, for editing, browsing, deleting etc the files in SPOOL job |
It's unclear what precisely you want to do. Do you want the ability to manipulate the contents of SPOOL datasets (e.g. JESYSMSG, SYSPRINT &c.) or do you want to manipulate selected datasets that were used by the job during execution?
If the former, I'd expect that your security people would have a view on this as you would be attempting to alter the jobs' history. If the latter, you can use IBM's SDSF Support for REXX or else interface with the SDSF program by providing the ISFIN and ISFOUT and linking to SDSF.
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| I want to know how I can run it in SPOOL. |
You can't run in IN spool. Spool is data, not an environment. You can run your REXX to use the spool data.
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krsk
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Hello,
The actual requirement is, I want to develop a REXX routine DS – Delete dataset, place the cursor on the dataset of the Job and the dataset should get deleted. Like this I want some more routines like, ED - edit dataset, BD - Browse dataset, LM - list the members in the PDS in the JOB, etc.
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enrico-sorichetti
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| I am new to REXX, so I do not have much idea on REXX. |
developing tools is not something easy if You do not have an idea of ...
also the whole set of questions did not clarify at all Your needs,
maybe they were clear to You but You were not able to extend this clarity around ...
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| The actual requirement is, I want to develop a REXX routine DS |
is that a requirement or a whim..... looks more like the second 
also the issue is not at all spool, or anything similar related
is just a simple cursor driven data extraction from any ispf like panel
position the cursor on something that looks like a dataset name and,
hitting the proper function key perform some action
the issue has been debated with dubious results many many times
as a hint search the net for the vcursor snippet from Doug Nadel |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
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Like this I want some more routines like, ED - edit dataset, BD - Browse dataset, LM - list the members in the PDS in the JOB, etc.
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Keep in mind that the spool is not at all like a pds and cannot be accessed the same ways.
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| The actual requirement is, I want to develop a REXX routine DS |
Who determined this requirement (and the others you mentioned)? What business reason is there for this?
Spool entries should be looked at, possibly printed, and deleted - there should be no editing of spool entries. . . |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| Spool entries should be looked at, possibly printed, and deleted - there should be no editing of spool entries. . . |
Yup they are to check the status of some "run"..otherwise why IBM licensed program has been given a name "System Display And Search Facility", they could have done with it by something like SDEF - "System Data And Edit Facility" .. 
P.S.: Sorry, I know my reply in this thread is just 'stupid' but it's one of the most ambitious (weird actually) requirement I've ever come across..or perhaps the explanation from the OP is not that well constructed.. |
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krsk
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Hello,
Sorry for being not able to describe the problem in the way everyone can understand......
Let me explain the problem once again.
See I have a REXX routine ED, for editing the dataset. What it does is, when I open some datasets like JCLs, which contain the names of other datasets in them, when I type ED in command line and place the cursor on the dataset name, that dataset gets opened in edit mode.
Now, I want a REXX routine, with which I can edit the datasets which are referred in the SPOOL outputs like JESJCL. How can it be done?
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gcicchet
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Hi,
Bill mentioned it earlier, rather than selecting the job with an S, select it with SE, this will put you in EDIT mode and you should be able to use your MACROes.
Gerry |
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dick scherrer
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Now, I want a REXX routine, with which I can edit the datasets which are referred in the SPOOL outputs like JESJCL. How can it be done?
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I believe we understand what you want. . . I also believe you cannot get what you say you want. . . .
Editing implies change. Data already spooled will not be changed by an editing session. Even if you enter the editor, i believe the closest you could get to what you seem to want is to save a copy in some dataset.
As i asked earlier and you have not yet answered - what business reason is there to do this? If we understood why this is needed, we might be able to offer better suggestions. |
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Pedro
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| edit the datasets which are referred in the job |
FYI. not the original quote, but what I gleaned from the posts.
coding:
1. write ISPF editor macro that uses CURSOR macro command to determine which line and which column the cursor is on.
2. Use LINE macro command to get the line.
3. use REXX parse instruction to isolate data at cursor location.
4. invoke EDIT service specifying dataset name.
5. put your code into SYSPROC concatenation.
setup:
1. enter SE line command in front of job to enter an editor session for the job output.
2. issue KEYS command.
3. set a PF key to issue your new program
4. PF3 to exit KEYS panel
usage:
1. enter SE line command in front of job to enter an editor session for the job output.
2. put cursor on dataset name
3. press your changed PF key. |
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krsk
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Pedro's reply exactly points to the answer of the problem. 
But, I would like to know where to issue the keys command? It does not work in the command input line in the screen which we get by issuing se infront of the job.
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krsk
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what business reason is there to do this?
Suppose we submit a jcl, in which we have many dsns. If any error occurs while submitting that jcl, we can go to spool and understand the reasons. The the jcl used is in JESJCL. Now, suppose editing, or browsing one of the datasets refferred by the jcl becomes necessary, then if we have some routines we can just place the cursor over dsn and run the routine, we can edit it, there itself.
I can site you one example. In this case I have written a COBOL program for writing data into a sequential file, the data is also given through the JCL. I submit the run jcl, the job is executed successfully. Now I want to see the file that is written. Now, suppose I am in the SPOOL, JESJCL, there I want to see the file. If I have one routine BD I can just place the cursor on the dsn and run the routine, the dataset gets opened there itself.
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dick scherrer
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| I believe we understand what you want. . . |
I surely missed this one. . . 
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| Now, suppose editing, or browsing one of the datasets refferred by the jcl becomes necessary, |
Now, i believe i understand. . . Until now, i misunderstood that you wanted to actually edit the spool content rather than some dataset named in the spool content 
Editing some dataset should not be an issue. . .
And, yes, i believe you would do well to proceed as Pedro suggested. You could issue the KEYS command on the ispf main menu and the "Keylist Utility" will be run and you can customize your pfk definitions. |
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Pedro
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| You could issue the KEYS command on the ispf main menu and the "Keylist Utility" will be run and you can customize your pfk definitions. |
I think you get the wrong set of keys, doing it from the ISPF main menu.
In SDSF, after you type SE and press Enter, it should put you into the editor with your job output shown. In the ISPF command line, type KEYS. If that does not work, please explain what message you get.
You can also be anywhere within SDSF and type KEYLIST in the command line. Select ISFEDKEY to get the keys used by the SE edit session. |
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krsk
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In SDSF, after you type SE and press Enter, it should put you into the editor with your job output shown. In the ISPF command line, type KEYS. If that does not work, please explain what message you get.
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I went to SDSF, by using TSO SDSSF ST, I typed SE infront of the job and then, in the command line I typed KEYS. It is showing invalid command.
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enrico-sorichetti
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| I went to SDSF, by using TSO SDSSF ST, I typed SE infront of the job and then, in the command line I typed KEYS. It is showing invalid command. |
you did not enter the ispf sdsf application
You used the sdsf tso command with its builtin display logic
You should have noticed that by entering se, You did not get an edit session
but a browse session of the jes dataset ( tested )
if You enter the sdsf application thru the ISPF interface all the ISPF facilities will be available ( tested ) |
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Pedro
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Their is usually a local menu panel that is used to call SDSF.
Or you could use an (untested) exec like this:
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/* rexx */ Parse arg option
Address ISPEXEC "SELECT PGM(ISFISP) NEWAPPL(ISF) PARM("option")" |
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Josh Keller
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| Pedro wrote: |
coding:
1. write ISPF editor macro that uses CURSOR macro command to determine which line and which column the cursor is on.
2. Use LINE macro command to get the line.
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Just as an FYI (and some probably already know), you can use ZSCREENI variable to obtain text from the screen rather than limiting to just an Edit Macro LINE command.
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"ISPEXEC VGET (ZSCREENI,ZSCREENC,ZSCREENW)"
ZSCREENC = ZSCREENC + 1
ROW=(ZSCREENC)%ZSCREENW
COL=ZSCREENC - (ZSCREENW*ROW)
ROW = ROW + 0
IF COL <= 0 THEN ROW = ROW -1
LINETEXT=SUBSTR(ZSCREENI,((ROW*ZSCREENW)+1),ZSCREENW)
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Then you can parse LINETEXT to pull out the DSN and use Pedro's instructions to set it up. This would allow you to pull the DSN out while viewing JESJCL for example, and you don't need an edit session. |
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krsk
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Hello,
Yeah! I got the answer to the problem. Like Pedo said, in SDSF(entered through the menu option), we can use the same rexx routine for editing the datasets.
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