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unmesh33
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Hi
I have to rename the tape files,those files are big (i.e. using 10 tapes) .
I tried to copy the files to DASD however getting the space issues.
Is there anyway so that I can rename the tape files.?
Regards,
Unmesh |
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gcicchet
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Hi,
tape datasets cannot be renamed without copying the contents to another file.
You say copying the files to DASD is causing space issues, why not copy to tape ?
Gerry |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
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| You say copying the files to DASD is causing space issues, why not copy to tape ? |
And how do you copy, using file-aid ? if yes that would not work, instead use some utility such as SORT, give the desired DSN name in SORTOUT. |
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dick scherrer
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Hi Anuj,
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| And how do you copy, using file-aid ? if yes that would not work |
Why will this not work? Can file-aid not copy one qsam file to another? |
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Aaru
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Anuj,
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| And how do you copy, using file-aid ? |
You can also copy it using IEBGENER. |
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gcicchet
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Hi Anuj,
I think you better explain what you are on about,
I quoted
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| You say copying the files to DASD is causing space issues, why not copy to tape ? |
Now that seemed quite a reasonable reply.
Your reply to the above
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| And how do you copy, using file-aid ? if yes that would not work, instead use some utility such as SORT, give the desired DSN name in SORTOUT. |
There was no mention of which utility or program to use so I have no idea how this applies to my reply.
There are many utilities you can use to copy files such as FILEAID SORT IDCAMS IEBGENER DFDSS SAS etc.
Gerry |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi Dick,
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| Why will this not work? Can file-aid not copy one qsam file to another? |
It does but if file is on DASD, I tried file-aid option F;3;3 to copy a tape file; I got the following message:
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and COPY was not allowed. |
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enrico-sorichetti
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usually on any decent product ( even if supporting tapes )
interactive tape operations are not allowed for general use
how nice... a tso user sitting at his desk waiting for the operator to come back from the coffee break to mount his tape
also the TSO users are defined with the NOMOUNT attribute |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi Gerry,
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| There was no mention of which utility or program to use so I have no idea how this applies to my reply. |
I shuold have quoted this
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| I tried to copy the files to DASD however getting the space issues. |
in my previous post (fisrt post of mine in this thread).
Apologies ..  |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
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| You can also copy it using IEBGENER. |
Any utility which has COPY capabilities can be used. |
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unmesh33
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Hi,
Thanks everyone for helping me in this.
However Whenever I am trying to copy the the files I am getting the message 'Exceeded the allowed space limit'.
I am trying to copy this using IEBGENER utility.
I agree by using other utilities we can copy the files, however my question is there any limitation for IEBGENER to copy the the tape files to DASD and also what is the maximum limit for TRK/CLY that we can give to copy any huge file to DASD?
Regards,
Bhushan |
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dick scherrer
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Hello,
The utility used is not your problem. The volume of data is your problem. You will have the exact same space problem with various utilities.
If you want to copy the data on the tape(s), copy from tape to tape, not tape to dasd.
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| what is the maximum limit for TRK/CLY that we can give to copy any huge file to DASD |
Talk with your storage management people. They can tell you the maximum you can have. They will most likely not provide the amount of space you want. |
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