How to delete an uncataloged dataset

wanderer · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:05 am

Hi,

I have a dataset that I have uncataloged, so it doesn't show in ISPF 3.4 if volser is not specified.

How do I delete it?

thanks!

dick scherrer · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:17 am

Hello,

You can use IEFBR14, specify DISP=(MOD,DELETE), and the VOLSER. The entry should be removed from the VTOC. The catgalog will not be affected.

expat · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:26 pm

Use IDCAMS DELETE NVR is the recommended method

William Thompson · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:18 am

dick scherrer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:41 am

Hello,

NVR = non-Vsam volume record.

For some sites

wanderer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:43 am

Thanks Dick and Expat for the response and I will try out those things on Monday.

Dick, I actually tried to re-catalog the dataset so I could delete it by running an IEFBR14 with a DISP=(MOD,CATLG,CATLG) and VOL=SER=xxxxxx

It did catalog a dataset with same name, but it was new dataset on a different volume. Not my old dataset.

dick scherrer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:37 am

Hello,

What (error?) message(s) were presented when MOD,CATLG failed.

I thought you were trying to delete it?

If the dataset is still on the volume and you want to re-catalog it, try cataloging it using IDCAMS.

If you want to delete it, try the BR14 or IDCAMS delete.

Let us know how it goes

wanderer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:46 pm

Dick,

Mod, Catlg didn't fail. It succeded, but not in the way I wanted to. It created a cataloged dataset with the same name on another volume.

But the dataset on my volume remained uncataloged.

I will let you know the rest when I try them out.

William Thompson · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:13 pm

dick scherrer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:27 pm

Hi Wanderer,

My bad - sorry 'bout that. Lately, my IEBEYEBALL is moving more quickly than it should and occasionally i mis-read.

Bummer. . . .

Yup, if the catlg "worked" the original dataset would remain. If i understand what is happening, some of your dasd is sms-managed and some not.

If you do an OLD,DELETE with the VOLSER, it shound work. I'd only specify the DSN, DISP, VOLSER, and maybe the UNIT (depending on how allocations are processed at your site. Leave out the DATACLAS parameter or anything else that works with SMS. If your site has "rules" based on jobname, use a jobcard that will not trigger sms.

wanderer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:59 pm

William,

I tried using ispf 3.4 and listing the dataset using volser. It shows. But when I try deleting, it says, 'dataset not in catalog'.

And yes, I did include volser.

Dick,

I think you are right about some of our dasd being SMS managed. Using OLD, Delete is an option I have also thought of lately. I will try that out.

And, you can use (MOD,SLOW,SLOW) in IEBEYEBALL to condition it.

Thanks!

dick scherrer · Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:44 pm

You're welcome

I've tried this:

expat · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:28 pm

If the dataset is on an SMS managed volume use IDCAMS DELETE NVR, and if it's on a NON SMS managed volume use IEHPROGM.

expat · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:29 pm

Or ............... you could always use IDCAMS DEFINE RECATALOG to redefine the catalog entry and then delete it using 3.4

wanderer · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:44 am

Ok,

Looks like over the weekend, somebody has deleted my uncataloged datasets. Probably they have an automated job that does this.

So I uncataloged another dataset and tried the OLD,DELETE,DELETE with IEFBR14 using the dataset and gave the vol=ser=xxxxxx. It gave a JCL error that dataset not in catalog.

Then I tried IEHPROGM as follows,

dick scherrer · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:47 am

Hello,

Yup, the IEH210I looks like sms stepped in (again

).

Let us know how the IDCAMS DELETE goes.

Other than the one you've forced for additional testing, how did the others get out of sync?

wanderer · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:05 am

Moderators, please can you edit my last post in previous page and mask the dataset name given in the 'code' section? I can't edit my post.

Or can someone tell me if there is any other way to edit post?

Dick,

No other dataset has got out of sync. I am just doing some testing for my own learning. So it is only my dataset which is out of sync.

thanks!

dick scherrer · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:15 am

You're welcome - good luck

expat · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:24 pm

1) Did you have a DD statement relating to the volume on which you wished to use to recatalog your dataset. If not, try it with one.

2) If the dsn is SMS managed, use IDCAMS DEFINE RECATALOG instead of IEHPROGM