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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:52 pm    Post subject: Sound of silence
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If you record silence on a tape and then play it back with the volume all the way up, will that drown out the noise in the room?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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Please don't tail-gate an old joke that has been inactive for several years*.

The answers are:


  • Yes
  • No
  • Maybe
  • It depends


I don't believe you have given us sufficient information about the quality of the recording equipment to yet narrow it further.

Also, please post your JCL and messages. Use the code tags, please.

For some background information, google for "The Sound of One Hand Clapping" & "Bart Simpson".

The best way I've found to listen to recorded silence is with the volume way down, or the playback device disconnected from any supply of power. Or on leaving the print room, after an hour, when three 3800s, three 1403s and a couple of little ones are all running full-tilt.


* It is Friday
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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I couldn' t agree more, but on the other side You should consider that ...

Quote:
In this regard, the interrelation of system and/or subsystem
technologies necessitates that urgent consideration be applied
to the total system rationale.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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if anybody is interested in a BS generator here it is icon_biggrin.gif

Code:


#!/opt/ooRexx/bin/rexx
Parse Arg coun
coun = strip(coun)
/* List of PROLOGS, all of which mean nothing but buy time */
prlg.1  = "In particular,"
prlg.2  = "On the other hand,"
prlg.3  = "However,"
prlg.4  = "Similarly,"
prlg.5  = "As a resultant implication,"
prlg.6  = "In this regard,"
prlg.7  = "Based on integral subsystem considerations,"
prlg.8  = "For example,"
prlg.9  = "Thus,"
prlg.10 = "In respect to specific goals,"
prlg.11 = "Interestingly enough,"
prlg.12 = "Without going into the technical details,"
prlg.13 = "Of course,"
prlg.14 = "To approach true user-friendliness,"
prlg.15 = "In theory,"
prlg.16 = "It is assumed that"
prlg.17 = "Conversely,"
prlg.18 = "We can see, in retrospect,"
prlg.19 = "It is further assumed that"
prlg.20 = "Further,"
prlg.21 = "In summary,"
prlg.22 = "It should be noted that"
prlg.23 = "To further describe and annotate,"
prlg.24 = "Specifically,"
prlg.0  = 24

/* List of SUBJECT clauses chosen for no redeeming value whatsoever */
subj.1  = "a large portion of interface coordination communication"
subj.2  = "a constant flow of effective communication"
subj.3  = "the characterization of specific criteria"
subj.4  = "initiation of critical subsystem development"
subj.5  = "the fully integrated test program"
subj.6  = "the product configuration baseline"
subj.7  = "any associated supporting element"
subj.8  = "the incorporation of additional mission constraints"
subj.9  = "the independent functional principle"
subj.10 = "the interrelation of system and/or subsystem technologies"
subj.11 = "the product assurance architecture"
subj.0  = 11

/* List of VERB clauses chosen for auto-recursive obfuscation */
verb.1  = "must utilize and be functionally interwoven with"
verb.2  = "maximizes the probability of project success, yet minimizes cost and time required for"
verb.3  = "adds explicit performance limits to"
verb.4  = "necessitates that urgent consideration be applied to"
verb.5  = "requires considerable systems analysis and trade-off studies to arrive at"
verb.6  = "is further compounded when taking into acindxt"
verb.7  = "presents extremely interesting challenges to"
verb.8  = "recognizes other systems' importance and the necessity for"
verb.9  = "affects a significant implementation of"
verb.10 = "adds overriding performance constraints to"
verb.11 = "mandates staff-meeting-level attention to"
verb.12 = "is functionally equivalent and parallel to"
verb.0  = 12

/* List of OBJECT clauses selected for profound meaninglessness */
objt.1  = "the most recent level of hardware.  "
objt.2  = "the anticipated fourth-generation equipment.  "
objt.3  = "the subsystem compatibility testing.  "
objt.4  = "the structural design, based on system engineering concepts.  "
objt.5  = "the preliminary qualification limit.  "
objt.6  = "the evolution of specifications over a given time period.  "
objt.7  = "the philosophy of commonality and standardization.  "
objt.8  = "the greater fight-worthiness concept.  "
objt.9  = "any discrete configuration mode.  "
objt.10 = "the management-by-contention principle.  "
objt.11 = "the total system rationale.  "
objt.12 = "possible bidirectional logical relationship approaches.  "
objt.13 = "the postulated use of dialog management technology.  "
objt.14 = "the overall negative profitability.  "
objt.0  = 14

If coun = '?' Then Do
    say   "foggy.rx"
    say   " FOGGY is an interactive productivity tool designed to assist"
    say   " in the composition of monthly reports, project plans, memos to"
    say   " management and so forth.  If entered without parameters,"
    say   " FOGGY generates as output a high-fog-index sentence suitable for"
    say   " befuddling even the most determined seeker-after-content.  If you"
    say   " need vast amounts of FOGGY for really serious tush-covering, enter"
    say   " the number of sentences needed as a parameter.  For example,"
    say   " entering 'FOGGY 5' outputs half a screen of heat-treated, battle-"
    say   " hard, industrial-strength slop, well suited to choking hogs and"
    say   " assurance planners. "
    say   ""
    say   " REMEMBER:"
    say   " FOGGY can be a terrible weapon -- never abuse it."
    Exit
End

If coun = '' Then coun = 1

prlgindx = 0
subjindx = 0
verbindx = 0
objtindx = 0
lastprlg = prlgindx
lastsubj = subjindx
lastverb = verbindx
lastobjt = objtindx
text = ''
linesize = 72

Do coun
  Do While prlgindx = lastprlg
    prlgindx = RANDOM(1, prlg.0)
  End

  Do While subjindx = lastsubj
    subjindx = RANDOM(1, subj.0)
  End

  Do While verbindx = lastverb
    verbindx = RANDOM(1, verb.0)
  End

  Do While objtindx = lastobjt
    objtindx = Random(1, objt.0)
  End

  text = text prlg.prlgindx subj.subjindx verb.verbindx objt.objtindx

  lastprlg = prlgindx;
  lastsubj = subjindx;
  lastverb = verbindx;
  lastobjt = objtindx;

End /* do */

Do Until text = ''
  k = Lastpos(' ',text,Min(linesize,Length(text)))
  Say  Strip(Left(text,k))
  text = Strip(Substr(text,k+1),'L')
End
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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Feint whiff of Jargon Generator sparks :-)

Edit: Dang, by the time I wrote this, you'd done the whole thing in rexx, enrico!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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OOPS... I forgot the usual copyright BS..
I found it at a customer' s more than 10 years ago, added a few snippets..
so the usually disclaimer applies
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Sound of silence
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enrico-sorichetti wrote:
If you record silence on a tape and then play it back with the volume all the way up, will that drown out the noise in the room?

meditate folks, meditate icon_cool.gif


If you play it backwards, Beƫlzebub will whisper in your ears.
Crossing myself now for the rest of the weekend.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject:
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If you watch Godzilla backwards its about a giant lizard who's only passion in life is to rebuild a destroyed city. Content with his work, he then moonwalks into the ocean. The movie ends peacefully with an old guy fishing on a pier.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Sound of silence
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You must mean the re-make. In the original I believe the film would have ended with an A-Bomb shrinking Godzilla to 1,000,000th of his original size, revealing to a discerning audience the moral that no matter how great are your good deads, someone with an A-Bomb can still really screw you up.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:01 pm    Post subject:
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That part of killing the Go'zilla was censored in asia, since we love go'zilla so much :-)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject:
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I've finally realized why the noisy people don't realize how disruptive they are in the office. It's because THEY never hear a quiet room, and THEY never see people concentrating.

They always bring the noise with them and interrupt everyone within earshot, so they always see people talking and not working. So they think that's what everyone is ALWAYS doing.

I think if you recorded the office while the noisy people are gone, then capture them coming on to the scene, then surreptitiously give them the recording, it MIGHT make an impression.

In that sense, the recording of silence might drown out the noise in a room.
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