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Yolanda Harvey

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:51 pm    Post subject: Released Init 0
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Hi I am a mainframe network programmer and I was doing a network checkout, which I have never done before, after our mainframe was IPLed. An operator pinged me to say he had released INIT 0. I don't exactly know what that meant. Luckily another programmer responded to his query.

I've searched google and this site, but can't find anything to state what this actually means. Can someone explain what release INIT O means?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:59 pm    Post subject:
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Welcome!
INIT 0 or INIT 0 MVS, see if that's the context.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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Luckily another programmer responded to his query.

why not ask Your colleague?
such question are best answered by people familiar with Your organisation jargon

ping as sending You a message is such an example

anything else is just wild guessing.

we will be happy to hear what the problem was
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:31 pm    Post subject:
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Hello Yolanda,

<Adding> OR INIT can also refer to INITiators. Speaking from past experience, seldom the SYSProgs drain the initiators prior an IPL; please note this is a very-very site-specific thing, some sites prefer keeping certain initiators drained until all post-IPL verifications are completed.

As Mr. Sorichetti has stated, your site-support should be able to give you a quicker and more accurate answer.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:21 pm    Post subject:
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If an operator is involved, I assume an initiator is being released, but as others have said -- contact your site support group or coworkers as you have given a site-specific term.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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I would ask my colleague, but I am his replacement, and asking basic questions are not exactly welcomed. As stated I never had to do an extensive checkout in past job experiences, as the operators always performed those functions.

Does it simply mean that if they have release INIT 0, then no batch jobs can be run? So it would need to be changed if I wanted to run a test job as part of the checkout? Thanks for the replies.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:33 pm    Post subject:
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It could mean that the initiator for class 0 has been modified to allow jobs in that class to run. Or, it could mean something entirely. You HAVE to ask an operator or coworker or SOMEBODY at your site about the precise meaning. We can speculate all we want, but we don't work at your site and have no idea of the meaning.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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I will definitely ask the operator. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:35 am    Post subject:
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Also try to post your answer back here so that anyone else looking for similar question would be benefited.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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Also try to post your answer back here so that anyone else looking for similar question would be benefited.


the question is strictly related to the local jargon or misuse/ignorance of the proper technical language constructs inside the TS organisation

so the answer might just be useless for other environments
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I thought IPL is a generic stuff used old days during initialization of z/OS and INIT relates to that but I can be wrong in this context so what you say is possibly true and may not be useful for others.
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IPL is a generic term in common use by just about every mainframe site. However, in more than 40 years of working as an operator, application programmer, installation specialist, and systems programmer at around twenty sites around the US (and UK), I have NEVER heard the term "release(d) INIT 0" -- and that's the term in question, not "IPL".
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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Luckily another programmer responded to his query.

I am curious what that response was.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Released Init 0
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Finally able to follow up. I did question the operators on this and he stated that releasing init O (not 0 as I thought) would allow me to run batch jobs after the IPL.

Thanks once again for the help.
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