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raj_mainframe08

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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Whenever i create a JCL PARM, BINDPARM, or Sort card, it always gives me an error MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT when doing JCL CHECK. Then i need to do NUM OFF to correct this. It started happening few days ago and i am not sure what went wrong.

Even when i do NUM OFF, next time when i open the member, i get the profile overridden message and again i have to do the NUM OFF. Please provide any suggestions how to avoid this?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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raj_mainframe08 wrote:
Even when i do NUM OFF, next time when i open the member, i get the profile overridden message and again i have to do the NUM OFF. Please provide any suggestions how to avoid this?


Profile overridden messages means what?

Packed format is nothing to do with + NUM OFF ( Atleast to my knowledge )

Try the following commands

1.Profile unlock
2.PACK OFF
3.Profile lock


and see what happens
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject:
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I tried this and it doesn't work. I mean if i keep on giving num off for every member i edit every time, it solves the problem but its a burden to do that every time. To give you an example, i edit a cobol code and move to Endevor.

When i edit, i got following profile override message

Code:

EDIT       SS5326.G5326AH.AUG1312.COBBAT.COBOL(M5326S       Profile overridden
Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR 
****** ***************************** Top of Data ******************************
==MSG> -Warning- The UNDO command is not available until you change           
==MSG>           your edit profile using the command RECOVERY ON.             
==MSG> -CAUTION- Profile is set to STATS ON. Statistics did not exist for     
==MSG>           this member, but will be generated if data is saved.         
000100       *************************                                         
000200        IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.                                         
000300       *************************                                         
000400                                                                         


Now when i moved the code to Endevor, its showing all the junk value(possibly in Hex format) and program failed to compile.


Code:

000001            F   & : * : 0d10036 pIDENTIFICATION DIVISION. : 0d20035 : *
000002         35 mPROGRAM-ID. M5326S73. : 0d50031 kAUTHOR. RAJ : 0d60
000003         . UHG. DATE-COMPILED. 06/01/12.                               
000004         0100031 g00110031 : * g00120031  * hPURPOSE -  THIS PROGRAM WIL
000005          : * g00130031  *  OF METRICS FOR EACH CPS CYCLE : * g00140031
000006         160031 : * g00170031  *  * g00180031  * mMODIFICATION HISTORYY
000007         * g00200031 g00210031  * : * g00220031  *  * a** fPROGRAM  MAIN
000008         * g00230031  *  *  * g00240031  *  * cNAME fVERSION cDATE  DESC
000009         031  *  * : = : = : = : =  * g00260031  *  * iRAJ cORIG
000010         OPMENT  * g00270031  *  *  * g00280031 : * g00290031 g00300031


So i need to do NUM OFF, HEX OFF to solve this problem. Hope i am able to explain the problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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What does it show when you do

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PROF

ON COMMAND LINE
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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What does your profile look like when you display it? Have you checked your various settings?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

NUM OFF and HEX OFF have nothing to do with the ==MSG>s posted . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject:
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This is how my profile looking currently and i beleive it changed with every member. Right now i am trying to put this member to endevor and nothing is working. I am getting these Hex words

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EDIT       SS5326.G5326AH.AUG1312.COBBAT.COBOL(M5326S71) - Columns 00001 00072
Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR 
****** ***************************** Top of Data ******************************
=PROF> ....COBOL (FIXED - 80)....RECOVERY OFF WARN....NUMBER ON STD............
=PROF> ....CAPS ON....HEX OFF....NULLS OFF....TABS OFF.........................
=PROF> ....AUTOSAVE ON....AUTONUM OFF....AUTOLIST OFF....STATS ON..............
=PROF> ....PROFILE UNLOCK....IMACRO NONE....PACK OFF....NOTE ON................
=PROF> ....HILITE COBOL CURSOR FIND............................................
==MSG> -CAUTION- Profile changed to NUMBER ON STD (from NUMBER OFF).           
==MSG>           Data has valid standard numbers.                             
==MSG> -Warning- The UNDO command is not available until you change           
==MSG>           your edit profile using the command RECOVERY ON.             
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
Hello,

NUM OFF and HEX OFF have nothing to do with the ==MSG>s posted . . .


ok. But how do i solve this problem? I just copied this program from production and trying to move it to endevor and i am getting all this junk values.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

What you are calling "Hex words" are the member in packed format.

When editing the member you need to try:
Type PACK OFF in the command area and press Enter.
Then SAVE the member. It should no longer have the packed format. . .
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Dick, Thanks for the reply. Yes, i can solve this probelm using pack off, num off, Hex off and all. But i have to do it everytime on every member i create or edit. I don't know how it started as 2 weeks ago everything was working fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply to: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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see here for a snippet on how to do it ...

http://www.ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=25947&highlight=

driver script and inner macro to do the unpack

TESTED AND WORKING
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:45 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Suggest you speak with your Endevor and/or TSO/ISPF support and determine if there is a problem with this particular dataset.

If you continue to do this member by member, i believe the only things needed are the PACK OFF and the SAVE.
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raj_mainframe08 wrote:
Hi Dick, Thanks for the reply. Yes, i can solve this probelm using pack off, num off, Hex off and all. But i have to do it everytime on every member i create or edit. I don't know how it started as 2 weeks ago everything was working fine.


Do a

PROF LOCK
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:50 pm    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
Hello,

Suggest you speak with your Endevor and/or TSO/ISPF support and determine if there is a problem with this particular dataset.

If you continue to do this member by member, i believe the only things needed are the PACK OFF and the SAVE.


Dick ,

I am just trying to understand wont PROF LOCK
do the trick as I see his PROF in unlock mode

or Cant he run Macro against members in the PDS
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply to: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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the problem is not the profile LOCK and friends...
the TS has still to <open> and save each member to unpack it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject:
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I thought I heard somewhere that IBM was dropping the PACK command. However, I see it is still there.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Reply to: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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enrico-sorichetti wrote:
the problem is not the profile LOCK and friends...
the TS has still to <open> and save each member to unpack it.


Hope I dont annoy you wont ISREDIT MACRO work ?
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If yes this could be handy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject:
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I am just trying to understand wont PROF LOCK
do the trick as I see his PROF in unlock mode
Understanding is good icon_smile.gif - however, i don't know the answer icon_sad.gif

No one here packs anything - too many surprises.

Other than myself and a handful of others, all of the developers use ROSCOE. . .
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject:
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Thanks Dick icon_smile.gif

ROSCOE what is that ? something like ISPF

Appetite to know icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply to: MEMBER IS ISPF PACKED FORMAT
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Hope I dont annoy you wont ISREDIT MACRO work ?


did You read my reply and click on the link I posted?
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