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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: To seeing the latest post
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Hello Team,

1)I suggest to have below options also at the starting of every thread,

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Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First


This would certainly reduce time for scrolling it to down all the time.

2) If could able to delete the new thread (within 10 minutes of time frame)then it would certainly reduce unwanted threads from TS

3) If we can have like option for every post under a perticular thread and the count of that like threads can be displayed on the HOME page so that we can just have a look at that perticular thread when we get into this forum.May be top 10 (max) likes can be shown.

4)Also, if somtihng is asked on this forum which is might be irrelevant or bad design or basic question or TS might not explain the question clearly and much more for the experts then I suggest not to make any TS disappoint ( which may not be the intension from expert point of view), because sometimes its very difficult to get time(as because of time lines from clients) and browse into the manuals and then get the answer.

I don't know, How would these suggessions looks like, but to be very honest this is the the best forum I have ever came across.Hats off to all the experts...really your knowledge is very very helpful for learners like us.

Thank you!!
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Bill Woodger

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply to: To seeing the latest post
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What problem do you have seeing the last post? I seem to manage it, it's just a click away... look over to the right of the screen. Works for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply to: To seeing the latest post
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)Also, if somtihng is asked on this forum which is might be irrelevant or bad design or basic question or TS might not explain the question clearly


I guess that we spend more than enough time trying to get from the TS a proper/clear description of the requirement

and too often it is more difficult to get a good description of the problem, than to provide a solution

the TS is the one to be concerned about wasting our time with poor/unclear description of the requirement

rather than complaining about rudeness or feeling disturbed by us asking for clarifications

HE/SHE is the one who needs help not us


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and much more for the experts then I suggest not to make any TS disappoint ( which may not be the intension from expert point of view), because sometimes its very difficult to get time(as because of time lines from clients) and browse into the manuals and then get the answer.


utter stupidity,
for what reason do You believe that the TS time is more valuable than ours ?

why should the TS time issues be our concern ?

do You realize that we also have time constraints and deadlines ?

urgency lack of time is not a good reason to have somebody else do the work for which <You> are getting paid for

to make the most out of the questions <You> ask
and to forecast the comments <You> might receive
it would be wise for <You> to read and meditate on
how to ask questions the smart way
here http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

P.S.

raad this topic, and You might see why it is proper to get rude sometime
http://www.ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=53336&highlight=
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daveporcelan

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject:
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1) I use the 'view posts since last visit'
I then click on the 'last post' on the right.
This works great.

2) Do not post it in the first place?

4) This forum in not an alternative to poor timelines provided by clients.
If you feel bad, then do not ask for free what you should be doing for pay.
Maybe your clients should put some of the experts on retainer, for quick answers to the questions that others on their payroll can not provide.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to: To seeing the latest post
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Dave
have You noticed how many people asking for help quote as employer
an IT service provider

in this case I would not speak of help, but of stealing....
getting for free what they are going to resell as their own icon_cool.gif
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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject:
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To All,

I am agree to the last point i.e. 4, I have nothing to say on that, and ofcource you all are spending time for us is really means a lot.

Regarding point 1 I want to say when we enter into any thread we might see couple of pages of posts, now there we see at last the option of displaying the lastest post or old post so if that option can be provided at top under every thread then would really be more flexible.

Any comments related to point no 2 and 3?

Thank you!!
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daveporcelan

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject:
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Enrico,

That is the fine line (not so fine?) between asking for help and asking to have the job done for me.

When the urgency issue, please provide code for same, or the ever changing requirements pops up, it becomes obvious.

The last one mentioned urks me the most. Once the TS has been provided with a closely working example, no further questions should be asked. Look in the manual, try it over and over till it works.

I have run my syncsort jobs a dozen times or more till I get the right result.

The saying, 'you get what you pay for' applies in many (not all) cases.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject:
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2) If you are going to delete it in 10 minutes, why would you post it to begin with?

3) I have know idea what you are trying to say. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply to: To seeing the latest post
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Ten minutes isn't usually long enough for the TS/OP to realise there is a problem with the post. There was one today, but I can't think of too many others.

When I screw up/duplicate and discover inside 10 minutes, I just EDIT and splodge out what is no longer required.

It would be possible to post another message to ask a moderator to remove the, by now, two messages that are not required. Still there are going to be problems if someone has already replied.

A "Like" system is already being thought about by the site admin team, as I understand it. Just look though the posts where you have posted this one.
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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject:
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daveporcelan,
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2)If you are going to delete it in 10 minutes, why would you post it to begin with?


Sometimes and not always this need arises, but is there any disadvantages of doing it so? Just more curious to know this.

Bill,
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Ten minutes isn't usually long enough for the TS/OP to realise there is a problem with the post. There was one today, but I can't think of too many others.


Not 10 minutes it was just a aproximate time I thought of but it can be 5 minutes.

Any updates to point 1
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject:
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If I am a responder, then I will surely wait the allotted deletion time before issuing a reply.

I would not be happy if I provided a solution, and the TS chose to delete it as they did not want it any longer.
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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject:
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daveporcelan,
Exactly. I am posting some thread then that should only be visible after 5 minutes to all so
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I would not be happy if I provided a solution, and the TS chose to delete it as they did not want it any longer.
question won't be arising it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject:
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Ok try this.

Type your post in wordpad on your computer.

Wait five minutes and decide if it looks good, and you really, really want to post it.

Cut/paste it into your new post.

Problem solved, no work for Macmillan and his support team.

The point here is that they should not have to change the forum because the TS changes their mind.

Moderator please lock this thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply to: To seeing the latest post
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So you want a sort of "triage" area, where new posts sit around for a while. If the TS/OP feels the need to kill off the patient, they don't get shipped of later?

As I said, there was one today. There are an unconfirmed two others, from memory but I'm not about to think how to check. For three posts a year, I don't think anything needs to be developed. There is the "Edit" workaround anyway.

I still can't see why you have a problem with 1. If you want to see the latest, click on the latest. If you want to see the most recent, click on the latest and scroll backwards. Rarely is there useful content to a topic for more than a couple of days. Within a "long" topic you can at least navigate by page, then scroll. Don't really see the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject:
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often threads flail along for days because the TS
ONLY READS THE LAST POST
and ignores the others,
thus useful questions go unanswered,
actual answers to the question
which are hidden by intervening posts containing bad guesses, etc...

if anything,
a modification to the posting (if it could be done, but can't)
force every poster to click a "i have read this post" for every post in the thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 am    Post subject:
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Or, just as there is an "Edit" button that appears on my posts, there could be a "Remove" button.

It happened to me (a few times) to post a reply after reading a thread, and then only realize that there is a "Page 2" which renders my reply obsolete.
The same timer can be used (allowed within 10 minutes).
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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject:
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Marso wrote:
Or, just as there is an "Edit" button that appears on my posts, there could be a "Remove" button.

It happened to me (a few times) to post a reply after reading a thread, and then only realize that there is a "Page 2" which renders my reply obsolete.
The same timer can be used (allowed within 10 minutes).


@Marso, Agree.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject:
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3) If we can have like option for every post under a particular thread


We are already working on this option. And thanks Rohit for your other suggestions too, I will definitely include them if approved by our team. Anyway keep in touch with me Rohit Umarjikar.
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Rohit Umarjikar

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject:
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@mcmillan and Team,

Sure and Thanks. I will keep in touch with you.
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