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How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch

 
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mchanapa

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch
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Hi,

When i am trying to do the PHASE IN/NEWCOPY of program through batch by using the command CEMT S PROG(ABCDEF) PH its giving the following error
"No PPT defn, must be first time thru."

So program is not loaded into CICS memory area.
So i have loaded the program into CICS memory area by CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) in CICS region. Then my phase in job is worked properly.

Is there any method to do CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through batch?

Kindly let me know.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch
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Hello,

Please do not submit the same question in multiple topics. . .

This duplicate is being locked.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject:
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Hi,

Please note that this is not the same question.
This is releated to the same topic.

Kindly answer to my question.
Thanks in advance.

Reagrds,
mchanapa.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch
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Ok, i'll leave this one open icon_smile.gif

But i do believe the continuity might be better if this was all one question.

Probably there is something i misunderstand. . . icon_redface.gif

I don't have a specific answer for your question, but i do recall some topics about issuing CICS commands from batch. Hopefully, one of the prior topics will have what you are looking for.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject:
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Thanks for your response.

I have came through all the topics but i cant find an answer to this question.

Except releated to this topic i found this one.
http://ibmmainframes.com/about46428.html

Please provide the answer to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject:
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Hi mchanapa,
I would be really interested to know what is the real issue/problem you are facing.

Your query
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Is there any method to do CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through batch?
There are lot of tools which can be used to do the same ... EXCI is one that I know of .. MTPBATCH is a utility from MacKinney which is used here in my shop... and there are many other third party tools .. so yes.. there are lot of methods... there are lot of discussions already available about that in this forum.

But the way you have phrased your question makes me feel that - you believe to do a NEWCOPY, you think you need to do a LOAD and hence you are trying to do a LOAD in Batch. If this is the case, do not go behind the Batch-Online run. If not, please ignore my post and accept my apologies ..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:23 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Binop,

Thanks for the reply.

I am trying to do the CECI LOAD for 100 components which were not yet used in CICS region till now.

I am trying to do CECI LOAD PROG in batch by using program AFCP2016 but i am unable find out the PARM for that.

So i am searching another JCL/Utility to do the CECI LOAD through batch.

Kindly paste here if you have anything.


Thanks in advance,
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Mchanapa.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject:
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mchanapa wrote:
I am trying to do the CECI LOAD for 100 components which were not yet used in CICS region till now.
Can u please explain this statement... functionally what are u trying to achieve here ..

Frankly speaking, this doesn't look logical to me ..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch
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Review the CAFC "Licensed" documentation and determine whether program AFCP2016 has the ability to issue LOAD PROGRAM API's from Batch or contact the vendor directly.

Netec International - http://www.netec2000.com

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject:
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Actually i tried doing PHASE IN for 100 components through batch.

PHASE IN worked for the programs which are present in CICS MEMORY area, but for some programs its showing error message as ""No PPT defn, must be first time thru."

So these are not yet used in CICS region, Now i want to LOAD those programs in to CICS memory area by CECI LOAD through Batch.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject:
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""No PPT defn, must be first time thru."

So these are not yet used in CICS region, Now i want to LOAD those programs in to CICS memory area by CECI LOAD through Batch.
As i asked in my previous post, Can I say that you are trying to do a LOAD so that u can do a NEWCOPY.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject:
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Yes Binop . .
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject:
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mchanapa,

your ignorance of how things work in cics
is blinding you to the fact that you do not need to load anything.....
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Hi mchanapa,

As dbz pointed out, you do not have to do any LOAD - we have been trying to tell you this in your previous post also.

I guess, you are in this current state because of the "No PPT defn, must be first time thru" message. Can u check something for me and confirm.

Please do a CEMT I SYSTEM in your region and let us know what is the value of the Progautoinst field.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to run CECI LOAD PROG(ABCDEF) through Batch
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In a previous post, an explanation was given as to how Program Autoinstall works, as a PPT entry is built upon first access to a given program and a LOAD PROGRAM API is performed by the Autoinstall exit.

Is there any particular reason that you need to build the Autoinstall PPT entry (via a LOAD PROGRAM API), ahead of time, rather than just allowing the Autoinstall facility to do what it's supposed to do?

If this is the case, then speak with your Technical Services group and justify the removal (or nullification) of Program Autoinstall in favor of defining explicit PPT entries in RDO, which are then installed during region startup.

However, this won't be a very popular subject with CICS Systems personnel, so expect resistance accompanied by the gnashing of teeth and perhaps, vague and uncomplimenting references to family members. icon_wink.gif

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject:
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I fail to see why there' s need to NEWCOPY when there is no existing PPT entry? If CICS autoinstalls a PPT entry on first reference then the latest copy is the one that will be loaded.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject:
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The TS is so overwhelmed with ignorance,
that he can not solve his problem / actually realize that he does not have a problem.

This thread is just silly and a waste of time.
due to the total lack of comprehension on the part of the TS of the subject matter,
we continue in circles.

just another example of someone given a task for which he is ill prepared,
and makes no attempt to adjust his knowledge level from nothing to anything.

he continually points to the no ppt entry
and continually refuses to learn anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:27 am    Post subject:
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Product BatchCICS-Connect provides ability to run any cics transaction from batch ---> www.batchcics.com
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