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ksk

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:19 pm
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Hi,

we have been asked the following question in our internal tests. Can anybody let me know the answer?

When we logon to TSO, which memory would be used for log on process.

Options are:

1) RAM 2) Virtual RAM
3) Main Memory 4) None of the Above

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KSK
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dbzTHEdinosauer

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:42 pm
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what is this test for? SystemsProgrammer?

some admin type, with nothing to do, dreamed up this question.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:09 pm
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This is not for only Systems programmer but for everyone.
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Anuj Dhawan

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:24 pm
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Are you talking about Mainframes BTW...(RAM... icon_confused.gif )
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:35 pm
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Quote:

This is not for only Systems programmer but for everyone.


that's what I mean. who cares? besides, MVS means Virtual, which means it is in memory. RAM? tell them to cram it.

of what use would this particular piece of information be?

occaisionally you have to stand-up to the admin types and let them know that they are idiots.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:43 pm
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dbzTHEdinosauer wrote:
..occaisionally you have to stand-up to the admin types and let them know that they are idiots.
The day when I would be experienced enough, would like to say this to many..there are many in my hit list.. icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:56 pm
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ksk wrote:
This is not for only Systems programmer but for everyone.

This is a question that in over 30 years of IT I must admit to having never pondered.

To be totally honest, I can't give a monkeys where I get my storage from just as long as I get it !!!

You have to admit, it is rather a specialist question. And I am sure that someone somewhere out there will give us not only the correct answer and an explanation too.
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ksk

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:33 pm
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Expat,

I admit that this is a specialist question but sometimes we can't do anything.

Dick,

Idiots only asks these type of questions which are not relevant to our work. We can work on Mainframes effectively even we don't know answers for these type of silly questions. But as mentioned, sometimes, can't do anything.

I have asked some persons who appeared for the test but everybody made guess and came. I just wanted to know the correct answer.
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:46 pm
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ksk: last I heard, RAM meant Random Access Memory so options 1 and 3 are identical; since z/OS has MVS has an ancestor, it uses Virtual RAM (virtual memory) as well, so there's not really a difference between 1, 2, and 3. TSO logons require an address space for the user; the address space is allocated with a certain amount of memory based on the logon parameter so option 3 can be considered correct. However, if the logon parameter is so large as to cause paging to auxiliary to occur, it's not a 100% true in all cases answer. The question is really, really simplistic and misleading in so many ways it needs to be withdrawn.
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