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jmreddymca
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:03 pm
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Hi friends,

could you please tell me , what is the difference between syncsort & dfsort.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:41 pm
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See this previous topic.
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krisprems

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:48 pm
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jmreddymca
in the link provided by superk, Rupesh.Kothari states that IFTHEN is not available in SYNCSORT; which is a wrong information, may be he is holding an old version of SYNCSORT.

1. Basically, SYNCSORT and DFSORT are 2 competitive SORT products.
2. Some of the features present in one will/may not be available in the other.
3. Some of the features that are in DFSORT like PARSE, SQZ, JFY, NUM, SPLIT1R, etc are not available in SYNCSORT, however its available as the early release in SYNCSORT(check this Topic=>
http://ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=24948
4. Some feature's of SYNCSORT like JOOINKEY feature is not available in DFSORT....
5. And so on....

Most important point is the documentation: DFSORT documentation will be easily available to everyone easily(here=> http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/, but SYNCSORT documentation is available only on providing your license # in the SYNCSORT website http://www.syncsort.com/(or you can catch up with Alissa Margulies).
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Frank Yaeger

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:02 pm
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in the link provided by superk, Rupesh.Kothari states that IFTHEN is not available in SYNCSORT; which is a wrong information, may be he is holding an old version of SYNCSORT


That information WAS correct when posted in Aug, 2005. IFTHEN was available with DFSORT in Dec, 2004. It was not available with Syncsort until much later.

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Some of the features that are in DFSORT like PARSE, SQZ, JFY, NUM, SPLIT1R, etc are not available in SYNCSORT, however its available as the early release in SYNCSORT


Note that all of those functions have been available with DFSORT since April, 2006. They are still NOT generally available with Syncsort. Early release is NOT the same as general availability.

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4. Some feature's of SYNCSORT like JOOINKEY feature is not available in DFSORT....


I think you mean JOINKEYS. Note that DFSORT had SPLICE years before Syncsort had JOINKEYS.

It's certainly true that DFSORT's documentation is available online whereas Syncsort's is not. It's also true that DFSORT's ICETOOL is fully documented and available online, whereas there is NO documentation available for Syncsort's SYNCTOOL.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:31 pm
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That information WAS correct when posted in Aug, 2005.

Ohh frank i did not observe the date of post icon_surprised.gif
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Aaru

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:51 am
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Frank,

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DFSORT is IBM's sort product and an optional feature of z/OS. DFSORT includes ICETOOL and ICEGENER.


I dont have DFSORT installed in my site and even then am able to use ICETOOL. I am asking this as you have mentioned that DFSORT includes ICETOOL. Please throw some light on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:57 am
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Aaru
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I dont have DFSORT installed in my site and even then am able to use ICETOOL

When you provide
Code:
PGM=ICETOOL
and submit the JOB, internally SYNCSORT would call SYNCTOOL in the place of ICETOOL.
Also do you know when you provide
Code:
PGM=ICEMAN or PGM=SORT
internally whatever SORT product your site is using that SORT product would be invoked.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:03 pm
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Prem,

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internally SYNCSORT would call SYNCTOOL in the place of ICETOOL.


Thanks for the information. I ran a job with ICETOOL and found the same

Code:
SYNCTOOL RELEASE 1.5.3 - COPYRIGHT 2004  SYNCSORT INC.


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whatever SORT product your site is using that SORT product would be invoked.


I am aware of this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:32 pm
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thanks for the information prem & Aaru
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