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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Thread movement without trace
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Hi,

I have seen threads are moved from one forum to another when the poster starts the thread in the wrong forum. But there is no trace left in the old forum to state where it has moved to.

I am not sure if the original poster is notied of this movement, but the few such posts that I have checked, the original poster never replied on it in the new forum.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to lock the post in the wrong forum stating the reason and not delete it. And then move a copy to new forum.

Or if this is too much work, then the post can just be locked with a note about being in wrong forum. That way the poster can post again in right forum.

If this is something not acceptable, please ignore.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject:
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We have removed that facility to avoid junk posts.

Anyway waiting for other members suggestion.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

How much work would it be to have a "place" where moved and/or deleted (and maybe split) posts would be recorded? This would hopefully be automated internally so that no one had to do "manual" work to get it recorded. Maybe this could be similar to a "Sticky" that remained at the top of the suggestions/feedback forum? After a time, the entries could be rolled-off. Having a long history of these actions probably wouldn't have much value.

The posted text(s) would not be there only a one-liner with the initial topic and what happened and who did it.

If this is not feasible, locking the thread with a "Wrong Forum" note would be better than it mysteriously "going away".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: Thread movement without trace
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wanderer wrote:
I have seen threads are moved from one forum to another when the poster starts the thread in the wrong forum. But there is no trace left in the old forum to state where it has moved to.

I am not sure if the original poster is notied of this movement, but the few such posts that I have checked, the original poster never replied on it in the new forum.


Perhaps it would be a good idea for the original poster to go to the IBM Mainframe Support Forums Forum Index and at the bottom of the page is a Who is Online link. Once there, just click on himself and get to "Viewing profile" which contains pointers to every post started and all posts ever entered.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject:
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I am not sure if the original poster is notied of this movement


The original poster can find his posts using the 'VIEW YOUR POSTS' link on the index page.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject:
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I suppose now I know that there are ways for the original poster to find his post!

But there may be other people who might be interested in that thread as well.

And also as far as I have seen, most people in forums don't go through the view-all-my post type of things. They just jump into the relevant forums and view threads. Now I am not saying this is the right thing to do, but it is lot more user friendly.

Some forums I have seen either lock the thread in wrong forum stating "wrong forum" or lock it and move to right forum stating "moved to xyz forum".

Now, this is not an absoulte necessity. Just thought of suggesting it. If no one else feels so, then I suppose we can leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

I believe "View your posts" will work as long as the post has not been deleted.

Another thought came to mind that maybe the same mechanism that sends e-mails to anyone involved with a thread could be used to send the "same" kind of e-mail for deletes and moves. People who aren't following the topic would not ever see it, but the author and those in the thread would get the notification just like happens now when a new reply is posted.

Would hopefully be much less effort than my earlier thought. . . icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
I believe "View your posts" will work as long as the post has not been deleted.
True, except for a small period of time a while back, deleted posts have no replies and deleted posts are deleted for very specific and direct reasons, among which is that they just can't be moved to any forum that's appropriate.
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Another thought came to mind that maybe the same mechanism that sends e-mails to anyone involved with a thread could be used to send the "same" kind of e-mail for deletes and moves. People who aren't following the topic would not ever see it, but the author and those in the thread would get the notification just like happens now when a new reply is posted.
Jeez, I'd give my left arm to have that default to off....... icon_rolleyes.gif
Dick, you have read The Big Chief's guideline for moderators and as much as possible we have to deal with the good and the bad that appears here, some a little more harshly than others..... icon_wink.gif to the best of our abilities.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject:
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Yup, i agree that some things need to be dealt with "harshly", but i still find it (pick your own descriptor here) when i click on the link in a notification email and all i get is "The topic or post you requested does not exist" message.

Your thought about "opt out" would make a good addition to one's profile (if this additional feature was added). Personally, i'd like to get some kind of feedback when a thread i'm participating in is surgically altered. I only get 25 or so emails from the forum daily and a few more wouldn't be a bother (to me). Again, the moved/deleted notification would only go to the author and those active in the thread (who hadn't opted out) - not to everyone or even all of the moderators.

If it is much effort to implement another notification process, just locking the thread with a "Wrong Forum" note would would be an improvement (IMHO).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject:
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Some forums I have seen either lock the thread in wrong forum stating "wrong forum" or lock it and move to right forum stating "moved to xyz forum".


It was available in our forum too. But we have removed that facility to avoid that type of 'WRONG FORUM' posts.


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If it is much effort to implement another notification process, just locking the thread with a "Wrong Forum"


I agree with you, but I don't like to honor the poster saying 'You have made a mistake by posting in the wrong forum, but our moderators have corrected it by moving the post 'here'. Continue posting like this...' (icon_smile.gif )

So if the user need to be notified, we can give him a warning while moving the post to the appropriate forum.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject:
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Yes, i believe telling the poster would be good icon_smile.gif

That is the person who most needs to know.

From what i can tell, some of the people don't understand and just make a mistake - them, i'd like to help. Some are just sloppy/lazy and i have little sympathy for them. Unfortunately, it is not always possible to tell the difference from the post icon_confused.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject:
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Nice. Waiting for other members suggestion regarding this...
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