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Ty

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Top Secret vs RACF commands
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What are the differences between Top Secret vs RACF?

Which one is better?

What is the difference in the commands?

I know some RACF simple commands for just viewing the user such as (TSO LU "user") and I have read some postings on how to view the version of the mainframe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject:
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Top Secret and RACF are two of the widely used mainframe security products on the market today. RACF is IBM's product while Top Secret comes from Computer Associates. Both products will do the job, so whether one is better or not is not relevant. It's a matter of personal preference. While both products can lock down access to datasets and resources, the syntax of the commands to support the product are totally different.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Top Secret vs RACF commands
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What is the LU command in Top Secret?

any some of the other commands if you have them?

I really appreciate the help...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Top Secret vs RACF commands
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Userids in Top Secret are called ACIDs.

Create User:
TSS CRE(userid) USING(cloneuserid) NAME('userid name')

Delete User:
TSS DEL(userid)

List User (This is the LU command you requested);
List everying attached to userid
TSS LIS(userid) DATA(all)

List profiles on only of a specific user:
TSS LIS(userid) DATA(prof)

List who owns or who has a certain acid, facility, or dataset attached to their userids:
Acid:
TSS WHOHAS ACID(userid)

Dataset:
TSS WHOHAS DSN(*) - list of all sercured datasets
TSO WHOOWNS DSN(*) - list all owned datasets)

Facility:
TSS WHOOWNS FAC(facility)
TSS WHOHAS FAC(facility)

Define Dataset and Permit Access
a) Define "Userid" as owner to HLQ, all dataset names must have ownership before they can be permitted access:
TSS ADDTO(userid) DSN(hlq)
b) permit userid update access to HLQ.*
TSS PER(userid) DSN(hlq.*) ACC(update)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject:
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OK. I need a beginners guide for Top Secret. And one for my new companies Top Secret setup. None the above commands are working from the Programmers Workbench. All I see from the Programmers Workbench is the following:

Options==>

---SPF Options---

0 SPF Settings
1 View Datasets
2 Edit Datasets
3 SPF utilities

...etc...

TSO Help LU works but the actual command will not..

I need to mail you a small fee for your assistance...

Thanks..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Top Secret vs RACF commands
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I am proficient in RACF and only know a limited amount of Top Secret.

I do not have any publications documenting the use of Top Secret. You may find some documentation using an internet search engine. I don't think you are allowed to use links in this forum, but if you go to GOOGLE and use "TOP SECRET" manual mainframe, you will probably find a couple of PDF links that give a nice overview of Top Secret. If you are having to install or support Top Secret, you probably will need some reference manuals and you should probably take some courses.

In order for Top Secret commands to work, you must be operating under Top Secret and not RACF or ACF2.

Just like RACF, you must enter TSO before each command or be in option 6 "Command" (it may be a different option in your shop) to enter TSS without a TSO prefix.
TSO TSS LIS(userid) DATA(all)
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