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pkmurali
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Hi All,
I have to copy a large dataset ( of volume 1.9 million records) with LRECL 141 with Blocksize 27918 to LRECRL 80 and BLKSIZE 800. This helps me to view the dataset and macro can be applied. Right now I am submitting a jcl to convert the file into viewable format. then I am executing the macro through panels. I wish to invoke the batch job through rexx-clist and once the job completes and output dataset is created then the macro needs to be invoked (handshake). Is there anyway in REXX to make the program in wait and invoked when batch job is completed. I agree we can trigger the rexx program in next step of the batch job. But I wish to know if there is any other possibilities.
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Murali. |
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sergeyken
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| pkmurali wrote: |
Hi All,
I have to copy a large dataset ( of volume 1.9 million records) with LRECL 141 with Blocksize 27918 to LRECRL 80 and BLKSIZE 800. This helps me to view the dataset and macro can be applied. Right now I am submitting a jcl to convert the file into viewable format. then I am executing the macro through panels. I wish to invoke the batch job through rexx-clist and once the job completes and output dataset is created then the macro needs to be invoked (handshake). Is there anyway in REXX to make the program in wait and invoked when batch job is completed. I agree we can trigger the rexx program in next step of the batch job. But I wish to know if there is any other possibilities.
Thanks,
Murali. |
1) Any file viewability has nothing to do with its LRECL, and furthermore its BLKSIZE. There is absolutely no need to convert the dataset for this purpose, and in this manner.
2) LRECL=141 cannot be physically converted to LRECL=80 without truncation (e.g. elimination) of part of its data.
3) It is unclear the proposed role of any REXX/CLIST, and/or any MACRO just to view the file? There are plenty of tools supposed to support various files viewing.
4) The size of 1.4M records isn't a huge file in modern world. Big files start from at least 100M rows, often much bigger. |
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Rohit Umarjikar
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In a REXX you can check if the Data set is created and available and if not then send an error to retry after sometime.
Even if it’s possible, you are locking the TSO Session for infinite time, not a good idea at all. It’s not a CICS. |
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Nic Clouston
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| Why do you want such an inefficient block size? What is wrong with using 1/2 track blocking - nowadays BLKSIZE=0? |
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sergeyken
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| pkmurali wrote: |
| Right now I am submitting a jcl to convert the file into viewable format. then I am executing the macro through panels. I wish to invoke the batch job through rexx-clist and once the job completes and output dataset is created then the macro needs to be invoked (handshake). Is there anyway in REXX to make the program in wait and invoked when batch job is completed. |
There is no doubt that it is not JCL which performs any file conversion (something extra, except LRECL=141 to LRECL=80, I hope?). One can be sure there must be a program (a load module, or REXX script, or whatever else) invoked by this JCL; it is the thing which actually performs this "conversion".
JCL is not able to perform any conversion by itself, ever!
If so, there should be no problem just to call exactly the same program (load module, REXX script, or whatever else) right from your initially mentioned REXX, without involving absolutely unneeded JCL into this, so to speak, "process". |
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steve-myers
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| pkmurali wrote: |
Hi All,
I have to copy a large dataset ( of volume 1.9 million records) with LRECL 141 with Blocksize 27918 to LRECRL 80 and BLKSIZE 800. This helps me to view the dataset and macro can be applied. Right now I am submitting a jcl to convert the file into viewable format. then I am executing the macro through panels. I wish to invoke the batch job through rexx-clist and once the job completes and output dataset is created then the macro needs to be invoked (handshake). Is there anyway in REXX to make the program in wait and invoked when batch job is completed. I agree we can trigger the rexx program in next step of the batch job. But I wish to know if there is any other possibilities.
Thanks,
Murali. |
- You can browse a data set with any RECFM and LRECL. There is no need to copy the data set with LRECL=80. ISPF "browse" is not ISPF "view," though only us (mostly retired now) dinosaurs really appreciate the difference. Sadly, the default in ISPF is "view" rather than "browse," but that is easy to change.
- As others have noted, a large data set with LRECL=80, BLKSIZE=800 is very inefficient in space usage. In traditional rotating DASD a data set with those attributes is quite slow, but in modern DASD it's not quite so bad. One of these days I will rant on about why this is true, but not in this topic or this forum.
- As others have noted, it's not really a good idea to let your TSO session to just wait for a longer running batch job to end, even if there was an API to allow a Rexx EXEC to simply wait for a job to end.
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