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raja1128

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:55 pm
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Hello friends,

I need some info about cics debugging. i have gone through some threads, sites and found some terms like...

1) "LE dump"
2) "cics dump"
3) "system log"
4) "job log"
5) "SMF data"
6) "MICS or MXG to make it easy to use the SMF data"

i want to know where i can see those logs. For a batch job i go to TSO spool to see jes messages. But when a cics program abends or completes successfully where to go to see those messages and logs.

i found some links which tell how to use a cics dump to debug an abend but i couldnt find where to get the dump from.
ex: "http://cics.ufl.edu/trandump.html"

what all i know is:
1) there is a job running for each CICS region(not transaction) which can be looked in TSO spool.
2) there a TSQ assigned to each cics region or each cics transaction which can be browsed with CEBR.

kindly correct me, and please give some links or manuals or screen shots or any suggestion get that info.

Also when a cics program updates a VSAM file how can i browse it?

Thanks.
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Nic Clouston

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:29 pm
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As far as I am aware TSO does not have a spool. You use TSO/ISPF to access the spool software (in my case SDSF). That is where you find output for all jobs and started tasks. Logs are generally written to datasets whose names depend on site naming conventions but if you look inside the CICS output on the spool you may be able to find those names.
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Also when a cics program updates a VSAM file how can i browse it?

Browse what? The VSAM file? The same way as you would normally browse a VSAM file.
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raja1128

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:07 pm
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Thanks nic.

So i can see a transaction/task output using SDSF ST. And log files are just like any other VSAM files which can be browsed in ISPF. and TSQ log files can be browsed using CEBR.

kindly correct me if i am wrong. i am trying to find some screen shots.

thanks again.
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Nic Clouston

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:46 pm
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you cannot browse VSAM files in ISPF - at least not withou using something like FileAid
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raja1128

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:06 pm
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thanks nic.

yes, with file-aid only.
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:26 pm
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And log files are just like any other VSAM files which can be browsed in ISPF. and TSQ log files can be browsed using CEBR.
Since when? I've NEVER heard of a log file being a VSAM file (except maybe DB2).

The questions you are asking are questions for your site support group, since they are the ones that determine site-specific data such as data set names for log files. They would also know how (or even if you have access) to get to the SMF data, system dumps, CICS dumps, LE dumps, and other abend tools AT YOUR SITE. Asking on a forum like this may get you generic information, but generic information has a way of being wrong when applied to a specific site and its standards.
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Anuj Dhawan

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:33 pm
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You are asking so many questions, mostly un-related to each other. E.g.: MICS or MXG are Third Party Software Pacakges to analyse SMF Records. These are mostly available to System-Programmers and not to Application Programmers.

About other topics from your post - I'd say, please google them one by one. They are too vast to be coveed via a Forum! Or ask your site-support, as Robert says.
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:43 pm
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as usual... checking the user profile before answering

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Occupation: software professional
Mainframe Skills: travelling


suggest that it would be wiser just to stick to traveling icon_cool.gif
a software professional should be able to carry on a bit of reasrch himself

P.S.
googling for

LE dump returned about 29500000 hits, but a better research with
LE dump zos returned about 890000 hits

cics dump returned about 130000 hits

system log returned about 650000000 hits, but a better research with
system log zos returned about 140000 hits

after that I got bored of sampling things on Your behalf

no reason not to be able to find these infos Yourself, oh I see ... You were too busy traveling
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:05 pm
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Hi Enrico,

And getting paid for others to do the research while traveling icon_wink.gif

And is possibly preparing for an interview without any of the prerequsites. . .

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