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How is the future for Tandem Mainframes

 
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ipavan

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:16 pm    Post subject: How is the future for Tandem Mainframes
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Hi,

I am having an offer to work on Tandem Mainframes. Presently I am working on IBM Mainframes. How is the future for Tandem Mainframes(HP Mainframes). Can I shift from IBM mainframes to Tandem Mainframes. I request the members of the forum whoever has knowledge about the above topic to advice me.

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Pavan
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khamarutheen

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Choose the Best
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Hi frnd,
The final decission is up to u dear. Since IBM mainframe is used in 80%-85% in many of the organization.. only few uses Tandem Mainframes. so i m not saying it as poor. if u need to jump or need to shif then u have only less options.. so keep in mind and then go ahead.
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ravipichukala

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: How is the future for Tandem Mainframes
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ipavan wrote:
Hi,

I am having an offer to work on Tandem Mainframes. Presently I am working on IBM Mainframes. How is the future for Tandem Mainframes(HP Mainframes). Can I shift from IBM mainframes to Tandem Mainframes. I request the members of the forum whoever has knowledge about the above topic to advice me.

Thanking you,


Pavan


Hi Pavan,

it's good to work in TANDEM. U got a chance to learn a legacy system..
I know very few companies have this same time very few ppl working on this. If there is no growth in TANDEM u can shift to mainframe.

My suggestion is take a chance... enjoy...
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Bill O'Boyle

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: How is the future for Tandem Mainframes
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Tandem's are still the backbone of many large worldwide ATM and Merchant Credit-Card Acquirer systems. They are an expensive machine, but you get what you pay for, because they're very stabile, as in "Tandem Non-Stop". However, I've never thought of them as a Mainframe.

Tandem has a neat (and powerful) Assembler named TAL (Tandem Assembler Language) as well as their own version of COBOL, named SCOBOL.

Tandem's also use "C".

IMHO, if you have the chance to educate yourself with Tandem's, then I would.

"Legacy" (I've grown to despise this term) is not a curse and this platform as well as other's, will be around for quite some time.

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Bill
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Devzee

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject:
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Tandem Mainframes(HP Mainframes).

Tandem and HP Mainframe are not same, both are different systems
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject:
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G'day,

I am the Marketing Director for the IBM SHARE user group here in the US, and the former Chairman of the ITUG (Tandem; NonStop) User Group. I live in both worlds, and there's a place for both System z and the NonStop server.

No matter how you cut and dice it, the NonStop server has now scaled to mainframe size - and it's no coincidence that each vendor is pursuing server consolidation with IBM centered on the System z (with both zOS and zLinux) and HP centered on the NonStop (with Neoview, and Linux).

For the NonStop and Mainframe I maintain a blog - you may want to take a look: www.itug-connection.blogspot.com and I welcome community feedback.

As for the future of NonStop? It certainly has really kicked up a gear now that HP has control and I feel a whole lot better. As for the future of System z - it's clearly growing in the Linux market more than with zOS.

Cheers,
RB
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HappySrinu

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject:
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As most of the poeple cover this point before, Tandem still uses in some of the largest banks in world and the availability of paid high as less supply of tandem resource on knowledge on mainframe.

Secondly learning new legacy systems is always a value add to your career rather working on same machine.
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rkbuckle

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject:
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When talking about IBM mainframes and Tandem NonStop servers, in both cases, it concerns me whenever I see the term Legacy. Gartner once said any application or solution is legacy the day it goes into production! Today IBM and HP support Java, APplication Servers, SOAP server / XML protocols, SQL data bases, C/C++ - again, exactly what part of the mainframe or the Tandem is legacy? Why does this term continue to persisit?

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