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Virendra Shambharkar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:37 pm    Post subject: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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Hi,

We are looking for solutions for migrating from Natural/Adabas to Linux/Windows and relational Database DB2/Oracle. Can you somebody provide any pointers to tools for this.

We would also be doing some research on this but wanted to check if somebody already has an experience on this.

Thanks for your help.

Virendra.
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Bill Woodger

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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So, you want to migrate it to "some" operating system using "some" relational database? Do the research yourself.

You know that Natural/Adabas runs on other operating systems, don't you?

Note also that there is a part of the forum for Natural/Adabas, although I notice now its name has changed: http://ibmmainframes.com/viewforum.php?f=40
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Virendra Shambharkar

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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Thanks.

I have come across Software AG Application modernization platform and Modern systems as the 2 options to re-platform Natural/Adabas applications.

Are there any other options available or any other tools that would help to re-platform , migrate.

Thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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There's a real expert who contributes here on Adabas/Natural. You could contact him for some consultation (means paying). Or wait (I don't know for how long) to see if he contributes anything on your question.

Otherwise there's search-engineing, and following up on what you find.
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Ralph Zbrog

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply to: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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3rd-party turn-key solutions (products and services) can be pricey. I would expect few vendors to have a local presence. Software AG has several offices in India, so they might not add travel costs which would increase total cost. Get some bids and compare to the cost of doing it in-house, if you have the time and manpower. (If you're doing this in-house, remember that I would include travel costs in my invoice. icon_biggrin.gif )

The big issues in porting Natural code are platform differences, such as collating sequence and endian settings, and JCL conversion to scripts. Natural syntax is quite compatible across platforms.

I hope that you are not considering replacing Natural.

Moving from Adabas mainframe to Adabas LUW (Linux/Unix/Windows) would be straightforward. A relational target complicates things immensely. Removing MU and PE fields requires massive coding changes with massive amounts of testing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Natural/Adabas - Migration/Replatform
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Thanks a lot Ralph.
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