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shankarm

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Suggestion regarding tool to be used
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Hello,

I have thousands of jobs running daily for more than 30 years. At this point, nobody knows what these jobs do. We are in the process of analyzing and documenting these jobs. First step is not to check every job in detail but to come up with an overall process flow diagram.

I am looking for a tool which would help us in this analysis. Can you suggest me a tool which would suit my need (To come up with a system/process flow diagram)?

Currently am reading details about the tool called relativity. if there is some other tool available in the market and if you can give me a brief description about the tool, i will do further analysis. Please suggest.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject:
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Am a mainframe developer. using Z series, Technologies: Cobol, JCL, CICS, Assembler, SAS, Easytrieve, etc..
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject:
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Have you tried google to look for other products ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:05 pm    Post subject:
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I am checking other products. I actually have what i wanted in the below link

http://www.microfocus.com/000/AQ%20Micro%20Focus%20Modernization%20Workbench%20Datasheet_tcm21-25092.pdf

If you are aware of something else, please let me know.[/url]
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Suggestion regarding tool to be used
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shankarm wrote:
I have thousands of jobs running daily for more than 30 years. At this point, nobody knows what these jobs do.


Other than the fact that I don't believe for one nanosecond that it is possible to have thousands of unknown jobs running on a z/OS system, I would suggest that you use the "CrYout" system, it will do exactly what you want.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Suggestion regarding tool to be used
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Prino,

What you believe doesn't matter. To give you precise info, i have 14,500+ jobs in my production library but i believe all these are not in scheduler (CTRL-M). You can give me a productive/valid suggestion rather than CRITICIZING.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject:
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To keep the forum updated:-

Below are the tools and the languages they support which would aid the analysis,

Table 9. Application analysis tools Vendor Product Mainframe Languages
ASG Software Solutions ASG-Existing Systems Workbench COBOL
BluePhoenix Solutions IT Discovery COBOL, JCL, PL/I, Natural, Easytrieve, ADSO, Mantis, Telon
Cast Application Intelligence Platform C, C++, COBOL, JCL
Erudine Legacy Elimination Tool (Not applicable)
Evolveware Legacy Rejuvenator Assembler, COBOL, Natural
EZ Legacy EZ Source COBOL, JCL, Natural, PL/1
Freesoft Portfolio Liberator COBOL, Natural, RPG
IBM Corporation WebSphere Studio Asset Analyzer Assembler, C, C++, COBOL, PL/I
MetaWare Refine C, COBOL, FORTRAN, PL/I
Micro Focus Enterprise View COBOL, JCL, PL/I
Progeni 4Sight Algol, COBOL, Natural, Mantis, Pacbase, XGEN
Raincode Raincode Engine Ada, APS, C, C++, COBOL, CA Ideal, PL/1
Relativity Technologies Modernization Workbench Assembler, C, C++, COBOL, JCL, Natural, PL/I, RPG
SEEC Application Manager COBOL, Natural, PL/I
Semantic Designs DMS Ada, C, C++, COBOL, FORTRAN, JCL, Natural, Pascal
Software AG Natural Engineer Natural, COBOL, JCL
SoftwareMining BRE toolkit COBOL
Transoft (IRIS) evolveIT COBOL
Trinity Millenium Group TMGi-SAT, TMGi-BRH Most mainframe languages
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Suggestion regarding tool to be used
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shankarm wrote:
Hello,

I have thousands of jobs running daily for more than 30 years. At this point, nobody knows what these jobs do.

icon_rolleyes.gif Is it too much to ask why your bosses agreed to take responsibility for a shop's operations without receiving any kind of turnover?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject:
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What scheduling system do you use? I'm sure it could help. Any half-descent scheduler gives job relationships (predecessors, successors, and stand-alone), job statistics, etc. Why re-invent the wheel?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject:
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Gary, Thanks for your thoughtful response. We use CTRL-M for scheduling.

From the scheduler i was able to get the list of jobs predecessor and successor but the business rules we have to sit and analyze the each job correct?

Please refer to the URL i have provided above. It gives us the list of business rules also.
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