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gylbharat

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: OPC - Workload Scheduler
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Hi,

We have OPC scheduler installed in our shop. We have a problem in getting all the predecessors and successors for a job (both internal/external).

So wanted to know if there is any tool/client which can be installed on windows and that can be used to generate graphical flowchart for the job dependencies?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject:
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Unless IBM has removed functionality from OPC in the decade since I last used it, all the required information can be extracted quite easily from it on the mainframe, albeit without the colored lights that hypnotize. Perhaps you could be a little more specific than "we have a problem"?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject:
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I assume the TS means that he cannot see successor dependencies in the database and/or he wants to see the schedules in graphcal form.

There are various 3rd party Windows products that will do this for you. Horizont TWS/Graph and APS VisualJob are two that spring to mind.

IBM's JSC may also be a suitable option although I've never used that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject:
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Akatsukami wrote:
Unless IBM has removed functionality from OPC in the decade since I last used it, all the required information can be extracted quite easily from it on the mainframe, albeit without the colored lights that hypnotize. Perhaps you could be a little more specific than "we have a problem"?


Hi,

I am not able to find out internal/external dependencies for a job in OPC database. Please let me know if there is a way to check. As shown in the example, last screen does not show any internal predecessors.

Example:

Code:

----------------------------- BROWSING OPERATIONS ------------ Row 1 to 3 of 3
Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR 
                                                                               
Enter the TEXT command above to include operation text in this list, or,       
enter the GRAPH command above to view operations graphically.                 
Enter the row command S to select the details of an operation.                 
Enter the row command J to browse the JCL.                                     
                                                                               
Application            : XXXXXXXX#1      WKLY IMAGCOPY             
                                                                               
Row  Oper      Duration  Job name  Internal predecessors     Morepreds  No. of
cmd  ws   no.  HH.MM.SS                                      -IntExt -  Conds 
'''' STRT 001  00.00.01                                       0   0      0     
S''' CPU1 002  00.01.00  DB2JOB01  001                        0   0      0     
'''' END  099  00.00.01            002                        0   0      0     
******************************* Bottom of data ********************************


Code:

------------------------- BROWSING OPERATION DETAILS --------------------------
Option ===> 1                                                                 
                                                                               
Select one of the following:                                                   
                                                                               
 1 PREDECESSORS        - List of predecessors                                 
 2 WS RES AND SERVERS  - Work station resources and servers                   
 3 SPECIAL RESOURCES   - List of special resources                             
 4 AUTOMATIC OPTIONS   - Job, WTO, and print options                           
 5 FEEDBACK            - Feedback options                                     
 6 TIME                - Time specifications                                   
 7 OP INSTRUCTIONS     - Operator instructions                                 
 8 JCL BROWSE          - JCL browse                                           
 9 CLEANUP OPTIONS     - Cleanup Options                                       
10 EXTENDED INFO       - Operation Extended Info                               
11 AUTOMATION INFO     - System Automation Operation Info                     
12 USER FIELDS         - User Fields operation info                           
                                                                               
Application            : XXXXXXXX#1      WKLY IMAGCOPY             
Operation              : CPU1 2                                               
Jobname                : DB2JOB01         Number of int preds    : 1           
Duration               : 00.01.00         Number of ext preds    : 0           
                                          Number of conditions   : 0



Code:


---------------------------- BROWSING PREDECESSORS ----------- Row 1 to 1 of 1
Command ===>                                                  Scroll ===> CSR 
                                                                               
Enter COND command to list the existing Conditions.                           
                                                                               
Enter the row command S to select the description of an external predecessor. 
                                                                               
Application   : XXXXXXXX#1      WKLY IMAGCOPY         
Operation     : CPU1 002    DB2JOB01                                           
                                                                               
Row  Type   Oper      Transport   Application id       Jobname   Cond         
cmd         ws   no.  time        (for ext pred only)            no.           
'    P      STRT 001                                             000           
******************************* Bottom of data ********************************
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject:
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David Robinson wrote:
I assume the TS means that he cannot see successor dependencies in the database and/or he wants to see the schedules in graphcal form.

There are various 3rd party Windows products that will do this for you. Horizont TWS/Graph and APS VisualJob are two that spring to mind.

IBM's JSC may also be a suitable option although I've never used that.


Hi,

Does these tool - Horizont TWS/Graph and APS VisualJob show internal/external predecessors and successors in graphical flowchart?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:43 pm    Post subject:
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Yes

As a slight aside, in your earlier post with screenshots, you said that it does not show internal predeccessors. But it does, that is in your example?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject:
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I am not able to find out the internal predecessors for the job DB2JOB01?

where it it shown in the screenshots?

"STRT 001" is not the internal predecessor, this job is dependent on some application/job which I am not able to figure out in OPC.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject:
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Well, that's what TWS says. I don't really see how it can be incorrect.

What makes you think that operation 001 is not the predeccessor and that something esle is?

I would suggest you speak to your scheduling team or whoever in your site is familiar with TWS.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject:
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As I got to know from developers that there are many other dependencies on this job - external applications defined in OPC.
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