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namdrino

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: SMF Dataset Access
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Any input or opinions on whether or not anyone outside of the group directly responsible for supporting z/OS should have update access to the SMF MANx files or SMF archive datasets?

Seems like update access to SMF datasets should be highly restricted esp. since SMF data can be used for billing purposes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject:
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Depending upon the site and the tools available, a case can be made for read access to the SMF data. However, there are not a lot of reasons to have update authority to the SMF data since people are not usually needing update access to this data. Considering the complexity of SMF data, I would place the possibility of someone adding billing information to the existing SMF data to be extremely low on the list of reasons.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:00 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

How might it be appropriate to "change history"?

SMF recvords what actually happened - and wanting to change "stuff" in the SMF data would most likely be for dishonest reasons.

The biggest reasons i have seen reading SMF data restricted is
1. the complexity of the data
2. the sheer volume of the data
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply to: SMF Dataset Access
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I guess my question is why any ID other than batch job/started task ID used to copy the SMF data to tape and then re-init the SMF datasets would need update access to SMF datasets?? Would anyone on the z/os team need it to fix an abended SMF job or corrupt SMF dataset? Not concerned with read access, just update.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,
One scenario which I can think of editing SMF datasets is,

If the SMF dataset has corrupt SMF records, like incomplete spanned records, then one may need to remove the incomplete spanned records.
But that too can be done after dumping the man datasets to some other dataset. It would still require only read access to man datasets.
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