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vasanthz

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:16 pm
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Hi,

From your experience could you please let me know the advantages of MXG over MICS and advantages of MICS over MXG.

Few of the points which I am aware are,
Cost of MXG is much cheaper than MICS.
MXG is easy to main and upgrade.

I have used both MICS and MXG on a newbie level, but unable to conclude any findings.

If you could please shed some light on the comparitive resource usage(CPU, Memory) by both the products, then it would be very helpful.
Sharing some past experiences would suffice.

This might be a big topic to discuss in a forum, but I don't want to email CA-MICS or MXG guys, since the replies would most likely be biased towards the respective products.

Thanks & Regards,
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:32 pm
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question about comparison of competitive products are not usually welcomed

user/FAN 's point of view are too often more biased than the point of view of the provider
given that they quite often see just one side of the whole thing

different products might <behave> differently in different environments/situations

so generally speaking the pros of one product might be the cons of the other one


as far as the price
MXG requires SAS and SAS is not cheap
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vasanthz

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:40 pm
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Hi Enrico,
Thanks for your thoughts.

I just want to know personal experience of people who have used both the products.

Both MXG and MICS use SAS as a back-end for processing. So SAS license costing is same for both the products.
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vasanthz

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:23 am
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One intriguing question was,

CA-MICS costs some $100K i think, but MXG around $4K i think (fixed price irrespective of lpar capacity) open to corrections here.

and both products use SAS as base and does almost the same thing(except for the minor way in which data is summarised). But why do shops still use MICS?, Just trying to understand the benefit which makes companies pay 100K rather than some 4K.

Any thoughts/inputs/corrections//guesses/anything on this is welcome.

Thanks
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:45 am
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I've used both MICS and MXG, and they both do the data capture, analysis, and planning. I suspect CA sells based on (1) the CA name, and (2) additional reporting capacity. They both require some customization to the site, but I don't think I've seen $96K more benefit to MICS over MXG. MXG is a very small company, but the times I've used their support it has been excellent -- Barry Merrill has called back within an hour of my reporting an issue.
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vasanthz

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:55 pm
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Hi Robert,
Like you mentioned, The additional reporting capability might have some weightage(I have not used the MICS workstation facility though).

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my reporting an issue.
How does one possibly understand all those macros and able to find a bug on them icon_eek.gif
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:24 pm
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LOL, you don't understand the macros. When you have a problem in MXG, it is usually reported as a 999 return code from SAS as MXG had a problem with interpreting some of the SMF data.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:56 pm
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Oh ok :-)
Good-guy-SAS always says user, where the error is and what to do.
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