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How to find the online pgms are using in our system or not?

 
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suresh111

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: How to find the online pgms are using in our system or not?
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Hi,

Could any one please suggest me, how to find the active online transactions. As per my requrement, some of the online programs impacted but I am not sure whether they are currently using in our system or not.

I have verified through the CEMT transaction for all those programs with their Transaction ID and observed that all are in enable status.

we had a discussion with SME. He said that, though those transactions are in enable status we may not use them in our system.

Technically is there any way to find what are the programs using in our system and what are all not using in our system?

Thanks in advance,

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Suresh
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject:
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is there any way to find what are the programs using in our system and what are all not using in our system?


Using in our systems means what?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to find the online pgms are using in our syste
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the only reasonable thing to do is to straighten up / fix Your organization poor habits.

there is noo way to decide on program/transaction usage apart looking at a well maintained application documentation
and the relative development/deployment/decommissioning log

for a proper technical only cleanup/scrub You would need at lest TWO years of performance/utilization/accounting data
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Pandora,

Using in our systems mean account (project)

Thanks,
Suresh
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject:
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Try Google for CICS STATISTICS.
As far as I remember, the transaction statistics will help you.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:23 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Something that some of my clients have done is disable transactions that should not be used on a system. Keep everything in place, but prevent use.

If someone tries to invoke the transaction, it will abend.

Not my favorite "solution", but can be effective. Also, how long a period of "disabled" is grounds for removal?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject:
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Hi

CEMT I PROG(PROGNAME)

this will give the counts the program ran in the region. If the program USE increases then your program is using by the system OR running in the region.

Code:

I PROG(progname)                                                     
STATUS:  RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY                                 
 Prog(progname) Leng(0000014152) Cob Pro Ena Pri     Ced             
    Res(001) Use(0000003492) Bel Uex Ful Qua Cic               Len
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

That is fine for "today" but i believe a longer "history" is wanted.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject:
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Hi

Yes this can only be used based on when your CICS regions refresh or bounces. You need to check the frequency of the region bounce.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject:
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As another approach if you have CICS history avaialble in anywhere and if your program doesn't have a PPT entry defined and its dynamically getting created , Check if the PPT entries are created in your history of CICS region.

something like this

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DFHPG9999 xxxxxx 05:42:36 Region <xxx DCTUSER TRAN PPT entry for PROGNAME has been autoinstalled using model DFHPGAPG. 


If the program get linked/called or ran the PPT entry will get dynamically get created
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to find the online pgms are using in our syste
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Hi akodakka,

Thanks for your help, but I tried with one active program and one inactive programs but I got the below response for both.

for active program:
I PROG(PAL2701L)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(PAL2701L) NOT FOUND

for inactive program:
I PROG(PAL2319L)
STATUS: RESULTS - OVERTYPE TO MODIFY
Prog(PAL2319L) NOT FOUND

I am not sure why I am getting Message "NOT FOUND" for both active and inactive programs

Best Regards,
Suresh
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject:
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Is the program defined and Installed ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject:
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yes the active program was defined and also installed
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject:
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Suresh,
Provided there are multiple CICS regions at your site - did you do the CEMT in the one where the program was defined and installed?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to find the online pgms are using in our syste
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too many useless answers here ...

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As per my requrement, some of the online programs impacted but I am not sure whether they are currently using in our system or not.


the TS did not ask about the transaction/programs being defined, installed, what the heck...

the TS is concerned about them being currently in use ,

the issue is not related to just online program,
it is related to the transaction/program inventory to see which are still needed for the current application requirements
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