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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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Hi Everyone,

I am currently working on a mainframe enhancement project in which we would be sun setting DB2 and pulling the data from TIBCO MDM, this would be implemented through EMS queues.

We would be following the Agile model for this project so the main requirement from the build perspective is continuous integration, I am currently looking on how can i automate the process of code compilation(cobol) and running JCL's from outside the mainframe. The idea is to develop a script which can compile a cobol code and run the code from outside the mainframe environment. Not sure if this is possible. Any ideas are welcome.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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running JCL's from outside the mainframe.


if You run it outside the mainframe then it is not JCL! icon_cool.gif

the requirement description does not give enough info for proper replies
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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You want to be "outside" the mainframe but run on it? Or you want to run outside the mainframe?

ftp (thanks Pedro) for the first. IBM and MicroFocus have products for the second.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject:
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I want the jobs to be triggered on the mainframe but from an external system.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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You can use FTP to submit jobs...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject:
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Thanks bill but idea is to do it without human intervention & dynamically
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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OK,
look at what interfaces are available in Your scheduling product for <cross> platform scheduling/triggering

we do not know enough to provide better advice

file triggering.. ( job triggered when a filke is created on the MF seems a clumsy approach to me )

as said before
we do not know enough to provide better advice
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject:
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frozenblood wrote:
Thanks bill but idea is to do it without human intervention & dynamically


Get along to the library and pick up some books on magic. May as well be Harry Potter.

Even MS-DOS has batch files.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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idea is to do it without human intervention & dynamically


every action/reaction must have a TRIGGERing event
what is the trigger for Your setup ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject:
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Ok icon_biggrin.gif ...

to be very straight would i be able to login or establish a connection with mainframe from an external system?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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to be very straight would i be able to login or establish a connection with mainframe from an external system?


certainly Yes, if You have thr proper product tool chain
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject:
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yes it is
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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looks like the topic is going down the toilet bowl...
most probably time to lock it and vaporize it after a while
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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did You reply yes to my comment about
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and about being SSE the internal IBM acronym for Senior System[s] Engineer ?

if You are an IBM employee I would like to remind You that IBM emplyees
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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to be very straight would i be able to login or establish a connection with mainframe from an external system?
I suspect that everyone here does this every day . . .

Very, very few have a direct-connected, wired terminal any more.

I believe you need to get a much better understanding of what you "have" and what you want to do that is not the way used by most.

You may know exactly what you are asking, but i really do not understand the question(s).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply to: Integrating mainframe with SVN or Jenkins
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to be very straight would i be able to login or establish a connection with mainframe from an external system?


It all depends on what your mainframe allows.

Maybe:
- Create CGI scripts that submit compile jobs.
- Run an Apache server on your mainframe.
- trigger the CGI scripts from a web page you create.

Or more likely - Submit a batch job through FTP:
- create batch compile jobs
- run TCP/IP server
- submit your batch job through FTP PUT command.
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