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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Currency lost in IDMS
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Hi,

Please let me know which all transaction result in currency getting lost in IDMS.

I have some example like Commit will release all currency. But I am looking for a complete list of transactions. Request help.

The same question was posted here. So TS has searched at least a little.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Currency Updated after Successful DML Stmnts
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PFA
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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PFA

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Attachment
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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do not post attachments,
most of the people here do not have the possibility to look at them
ant that reduces the number of people who can help
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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Athul's history here does not bode well for the topic...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:35 pm    Post subject:
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If the download has the answer to what PFA means then I am going to have to wait for someone to post in clear English. I am not going to trust a download on an open forum from someone that I do not know.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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If the download has the answer to what PFA ...

it does not !

the attachment looks like some manual table
here some lines texticized

Code:
DML Statement               RU  Rec   Set   Area   "Currency Updated after Successful Execution"
ACCEPT                      X   X   X   X       NONE
IF                            X      X          NONE
FIND/OBTAIN DB-KEY                            UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN CURRENT           X   X   X       UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN WITHIN SET              X          UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN WITHIN AREA            X           UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN OWNER              X              UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN DUPLICATE           X             UPDATE ALL
FIND/OBTAIN USING SORT-KEY            X      UPDATE ALL


since it is not my problem, I will not waste time aligning things icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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I guess Please Find Attached...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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Bill Woodger wrote:
I guess Please Find Attached...
Yes, that would be my guess too - it's commonly used around here.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject:
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thx for the hint Anuj.

the rest of the english speaking world (up here) uses
att. for attachemnts
enc. for enclosures.

(lower case)
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Nic Clouston

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:06 pm    Post subject:
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Neither Wikipedia nor thefreedictionary had that definition and they went on for screenfuls.Ergo - non-standard terminology!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

It is bad enough we wade thru loads of non-standard terminology - now we'll get deeper into non-standard acronyms/abbreviations.

How tough could it really be to just type the words. . . icon_confused.gif

I suspect just another way to demonstrate "coolness" or that one is "with it" . . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject:
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dick scherrer wrote:
I suspect just another way to demonstrate "coolness" or that one is "with it" . . . .

I had assumed that it meant "Porridge For All", and that a software engineer was going to show his appreciation in a substantial fashion icon_razz.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject:
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Just to add a little spice to the topic - back in 1990/91/92 I was working on an IDMS project where we had to save our currency on occasion as IDMS could suddenly lose it all by its ownsome for no apparent reason. Probably the reason was that it ran out of nooks and crannies to store the info. Probably fixed a long time ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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Reviewing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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Eh?

Reviewing?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject:
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Ha ha, yes sorry - I posted something misleading, so "removed" it for review.

A COMMIT will in fact maintain currency for SET, AREA and RUN UNIT whilst releasing all locks except for current.

A COMMIT ALL will nullify the currency table, while releasing all locks.

Cheers Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Currency lost in IDMS
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Hi Rob,

Not a problem - thought i was dealing with brain fade . . . . icon_cool.gif

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject:
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For the TS:

An ERASE [SELECTIVE, ALL] will:
- retain currency for area and run unit
- lose currency for all record types involved in the erase.

You can thus:
- retrieve NEXT or PRIOR within the area in which the erased record participated
- retrieve NEXT or PRIOR (or OWNER) within the set in which the erased record participated, since NEXT,PRIOR (and OWNER) currencies are preserved for sets from which the record was erased.


On a (slightly) humourous note, the favourite way to lose currency is to perform an area sweep and within that sweep do some set navigation within the same area and neglect to use FIND CURRENT prior to continuing the sweep.

It has to be done - in order to learn - and then it has to be not done again !

Cheers Rob
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