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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Report of uncataloged Tapes
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Hi,

I would like to know a list of all uncataloged tapes available on all volums. Could any one help me, how can we do this?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:08 pm    Post subject:
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Talk to your storage management team, however I'm not sure what you mean by uncataloged tapes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Report of uncataloged Tapes
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Few days back, the system management peoples ran a batch job - to uncatalog all the tapes (not referred for long time) from the volume. Ie the tape will not found in VTOC. but they are physically exists. Now I would like to create the report of all those datasets.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject:
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Ie the tape will not found in VTOC
With this one statement, you have completely proved you have no idea what you are doing and need to go back to school to learn mainframes. From the MVS Planning: Operations manual Glossary:
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volume table of contents (VTOC). A table on a direct access volume that describes each data set on the volume.
In other words, you can talk about tape, You can talk about VTOC. You cannot, under any circumstances, talk about tape data and VTOC since VTOC only exists for direct access (that is, things that are not and can never be tapes) devices.

For me, the key question is why are you asking ANYTHING on this forum? If your site management ran a job to uncatalog tape data sets, then you should be talking to them to get the output of that job (which, presumably, will include which tapes were uncataloged).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject:
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Yes, I would rather hope that they did keep the output from the job(s)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Report of uncataloged Tapes
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I am OK in mainframe. But not in English.

I have to put TSO option 3.4 instead of VTOC!

Who ran the batch job to uncatalog the dataset, is no more in my organization. Here we are doing R&D to foundout what he did.

The Aim in this requirement is, No one is aware that what are the tapes are uncataloged and where it was stored. My organization is simply spending money to those volumes.

So, now they want a list of a all uncataloged tapes in all volumes. Do you have any sample code / any untility can do this job? If you share your help, that will be very helpful for me!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject:
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actually your english is muuucch better than mainframe knowledge.

i think most people are trying to decide at what remedial level they should start their suggestions.

me, i'd say, get a manual inventory of all tapes (volume serial numbers),
and get that into a file.
(the only time this info changes is whenever you throw a tape away or buy a new one).

then you can do your 3.4 (non vtoc list 36_11_6.gif )
and compare the two.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject:
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Oh boy, this sounds like a real cracker icon_cry.gif

You really must speak to your storage management people. If the tapes are physical, you have a fighting chance of recovering them, if that is indeed what you want to do.

Physical tapes - Just so long as they have not been through the TMS scratch process and have since been used, you might be able to save some of them. It really is a pig of a problem to identify the tapes that have been scratched though.

One possibility - if you have a catalog backup of all catalogs prior to this incident it may, and I say may, be possible to go through these backups to see the status of the catalog prior to this. It will involve using IDCAMS to recatalog the tapes and possibly the TMS utilities to remove them from SCR status.

Virtual tapes - If I were tasked with doing a recovery here, I'd be busy sending my CV out to every agency available. Virtual tapes are usually rendered useless the moment they are set to scratch status as the LABEL info is deleted from within the VTS sub system.

I wish you all the best with this one, I really do.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Report of uncataloged Tapes
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Thanks a lot for help.

We contacted IBM and got a way to go...! They are having one utility DFSMSrmm -> Option 1 : Users -> Option 1 : Volume.

This is listing me all volume serial no for tape - it is attached to my Lpar. Option 2 -> it lists all dataset in that volume.

Here I can findout whether the tape is cataloged / un-cataloged?

This is what, I need! To findout all tapes Vs All volume.

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Vinod P M
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject:
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great,
thanks for the follow-up.

i am sure this will help someone.
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