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What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command will fail

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:30 pm    Post subject: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command will fail
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Hi . .

I want to know that what are the possible reasons for failing of PHASE IN command?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply to: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command
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  1. Did you select STUN?
  2. Did you spell it correctly?
  3. Lots of other silly answers like that.


No one is going to sit around and spend time thinking about this, just for you to say, "No, that's not it. Next".

Explain your problem, please, and it might get some attention.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject:
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I want to do phase in of 500 components at a time.
As a precaution to avoid problems during PHASE IN, i just want to avoid such problem causing situations.

Single person can not sit and spend time for different situations of problems. Please paste the scenarios of phase in problems you faced or know if any?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command
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So, you're doing 500 of these by hand and you'd like to know what problems you may face, and if there is some more reliable way to do it?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject:
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No . . No . .
I am doing PHASE IN through a batch job (JCL) and it is working fine with testing of 100 components. But i am working on what if anyone failed at that time?

That is why i am searching for various reasons of failing of PHASE IN command . .

Please help with this issue.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply to: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command
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I can only think of PGMIDERR on a PHASEIN.

What if you have programs which are permanently loaded (RESCOUNT is always non-zero)?

PHASEIN won't work for them.

Why 500 programs at once?

Wouldn't it be easier to recycle the region?

Does the Batch JOB indicate a bad PHASEIN by a non-zero return-code?

Are the programs PHASED-IN individually or by passing a "FUZZY" name, such as "PGM*"?

Are you using a JES Modify command, using CEMT?

What facility are you using (if any) to PHASEIN on the CICS side? DFHEMTA, DFHEMTP, the SET PROGRAM PHASEIN API or a 3rd-Party interface?

I wouldn't advocate your method....

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:19 pm    Post subject:
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My main intention is to avoid Region Recycle. So i opted for this option to PHASE IN all components at a time by using JCL.

There i am doing PHASE IN by CEMT S PROG command.

I want to know is there any possibility that this job fails in PHASING of programs?
So that i will take care of that scenarios before submitting the job.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject:
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why do you want to essentially NEWCOPY all application modules?

what is going wrong that you need to NEWCOPY anything except
modules that have been changed (maintenance/development)?

can't help but feel that you are solving a 'problem' incorrectly...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject:
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I am doing that one only.
I have changed 500 online components and want to do PHASE IN.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

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I have changed 500 online components and want to do PHASE IN.
Suggest you change your "want". . .

Until one or more problems occur you will not not know what they might be. Pretty much everythnig that fails wil be because of somethng done incorrectly - not an inherent problem in activating a new copy. Fortunately, when something fails, the system provides diagnostic info.

Other than your want, why not simply recycle the region icon_confused.gif

Keep in mind that most managers are less interested in what some technician wants than having what they need quickly and correctly.
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This forum appears to be turning into a training site for beginners icon_sad.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply to: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command
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Hi Earl,

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This forum appears to be turning into a training site for beginners
Been this way since i joined 5 or so years ago. . . icon_sad.gif

Lots of the beginners have been told they are an expert and believed it. . .

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Dick,

What is really scary: There are lots of managers out there who hire these 'so-called' experts in order to save a buck...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject:
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Now iam so scared ....
Here lots of managers are present than 'so-called' experts. icon_sad.gif

A sincere reuest . .

We all come here to seek a help for the issues we faced. If u feel these are very basic or for Begineer, Please mention the same in first comment itself and make that topic as ineditable.

Thanks....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply to: What are the Possible reasons for PHASE IN command
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You still haven't justified why you need to issue PHASEIN on so many Load Modules and we're still scratching our heads. icon_eek.gif

Ask management WHY, WHY, WHY?

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Hello,

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What is really scary: There are lots of managers out there who hire these 'so-called' experts in order to save a buck...
What i've seen more and more (at least since the late 90s - y2k) is the gross incompetence of so many interviewers. Yes, they want things for less $, but don't even know how to do an initial screen, let alone something of any depth.

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We all come here to seek a help for the issues we faced. If u feel these are very basic or for Begineer, Please mention the same in first comment itself and make that topic as ineditable.
Most if not all of us "seniors" understand the most of our members are simply looking for answers. As far as the "depth" of a question, we would have very little dialog if we locked everything that was not an "expert queston". A large part of this is because the people who develop into true experts have become quite self-sufficient icon_smile.gif

The population of "not yet experts" is still on the increase icon_wink.gif

If you are interested, we als have a separet forum for Students and Beginners (http://ibmmainframeforum.com/index.php). On the Student forum, replies are usually less harsh. . . Not always, but usually.

And, as has been asked (again) why you need to issue PHASEIN on so many Load Modules
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