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How to Create a new panvelet library?

 
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Kavitha SG

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:11 pm    Post subject: How to Create a new panvelet library?
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Hi,
I would like to create a new panvel library to save my cobol programs. Till now i was using my development library itself which i feel is not better. So please tell me how to create a new panvel library.

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Kavitha
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Bill Woodger

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to Create a new panvelet library?
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This is not a Cobol question.

Why don't you ask your local technical staff? That way, even if you can do it yourself, you'll get it done properly including ensuring that it is backed-up.

Plus, maybe you'll be told why you have to do it the current way, so you can sit back down and get on with things.
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Robert Sample

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject:
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Most sites restrict this type of function to support groups -- application developers could get into trouble for attempting to create a new Panvalet library. The JCL to create a new library would be in the installation JCL or sample JCL library, whatever it is called at your site -- but again, without authorization, it would not be wise to find and execute this yourself.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject:
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I have the authorization. I am sure about it. I tried to copy an existing library and rename it but no luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject:
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If you have the authorization, then find the installation JCL library (or sample JCL library) -- from the documentation if needed -- and use the appropriate member to define the new library. Just copying an existing library may not work, depending upon how you do the copy. For example, CA-LIBRARIAN used to use BDAM data sets exclusively (they now support VSAM master files as well) and if you didn't use the LIBRARIAN batch facility to copy the master file, the copy was not usable.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to Create a new panvelet library?
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I wonder why so many people have the authorization to do things for which they do not have the skills,
not even the basic one of searching the manuals themselves
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enrico, it is a wonder is it not?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to Create a new panvelet library?
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Even if you have authority, if you don't know how to do it, I'd suggest you get someone who knows (and knows your set-up) to do it for you.

You really do not want to think that you have done it, use it for a few weeks, screw something up badly (like re-using your JCL and forgetting to change the library name) and then find that it is not backed-up or something.

If you have authority to do make a new library but don't know how, go to your boss and request a little bit of training in the subject. It'll get you that faster and more securely than we can, since we know nothing about the specifics at your site.

I still have no idea why you feel it is not better to use your development library. Generally it is best to do it the way everyone else does it. Then, if you are off sick, people know whether they are are their... feet or their elbow if they have to pick up your code.

If you tell us what is wrong with using your development library, we may commiserate (if it is an excellent reason). If you tell your support people, they may help you sort it out (or tell you "tough, that is how we do it here".
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:25 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Well-managed systems do not allow programmers to scatter source into non-standard libraries. . .

If the other developers successfully use the development source library, why do you believe you should be allowed to go off on your own?

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Till now i was using my development library itself which i feel is not better.
Why do feel that NOT following the standard might be "better"?
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