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what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?
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can somebody tel me
what is copybook and what are the available shortcuts in mainframe for it ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

If you don't know what it is, why might you be looking for a short cut? Personally, i don't know what a "shortcut in mainframe" could be.

At the top of the page is a link to "IBM Manuals". Read in the COBOL Language Reference for your compiler about COPY. . .

If you find something that is not clear in the manual, post what you found and your doubt - someone will be able to clarify.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?
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nandeshwar wrote:
can somebody tel me
what is copybook and what are the available shortcuts in mainframe for it ?

As you bill yourself a "software engg" [sic] with COBOL among your skills, we may be sure that you do but jest asking this question.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject:
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There are no shortcuts in mainframe programming, just hard work icon_wink.gif

The copybook is a shortcut in itself: Without it, you had to describe the data structure in both the creating program and in the program(s) that have it as input...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject:
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Kjeld wrote:
There are no shortcuts in mainframe programming, just hard work icon_wink.gif

The copybook is a shortcut in itself: Without it, you had to describe the data structure in both the creating program and in the program(s) that have it as input...


I want to modify my question :
what are the shortcuts to browse the copybook layout???

P.S: in mainframes we do have shortcuts . For example you can use option 3.13 to COMPARE to two datasets and also you can write a JCL to COMPARE two datasets. Depends how you want to make work fatser.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?
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Akatsukami wrote:
nandeshwar wrote:
can somebody tel me
what is copybook and what are the available shortcuts in mainframe for it ?

As you bill yourself a "software engg" [sic] with COBOL among your skills, we may be sure that you do but jest asking this question.


please post if u can help me. I am a software engg and that doesnt make me any different from not knowing lot of things. Just trying to gather more of cobol and mainframes.

I don think this is a forum for making remarks on someone's knowledge.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject:
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nandeshwar wrote:
Kjeld wrote:
There are no shortcuts in mainframe programming, just hard work icon_wink.gif

The copybook is a shortcut in itself: Without it, you had to describe the data structure in both the creating program and in the program(s) that have it as input...


I want to modify my question :
what are the shortcuts to browse the copybook layout???

P.S: in mainframes we do have shortcuts . For example you can use option 3.13 to COMPARE to two datasets and also you can write a JCL to COMPARE two datasets. Depends how you want to make work fatser.

Oh I get it, then the answer is 1.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?
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nandeshwar wrote:
Akatsukami wrote:
nandeshwar wrote:
can somebody tel me
what is copybook and what are the available shortcuts in mainframe for it ?

As you bill yourself a "software engg" [sic] with COBOL among your skills, we may be sure that you do but jest asking this question.


please post if u can help me. I am a software engg and that doesnt make me any different from not knowing lot of things. Just trying to gather more of cobol and mainframes.

I don think this is a forum for making remarks on someone's knowledge.

Hey, we are not mocking you for asking, but for how you can qoute JCL, COBOL, CICS among your skills if you don't know how to browse a PDS in TSO/ISPF?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply to: what is the copybook ?what are the available short
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just disregarding the mainframe skills...
the communication skills are completely inexistent here

even if is only tuesday the psychic day is close enough icon_biggrin.gif
maybe the TS wants to know how ...
while editing a <source> ( any language if the tool is smart )
positioning the cursor on a line containing a COPY/INCLUDE construct
hitting a PFKEY
magically edit/view/browse the copybook referenced on the line

but until the TS learn to express Himself properly
just unpleasant considerations on his skills is all He will get icon_cool.gif

given the title of the question
Quote:
what is the copybook ?what are the available shortscuts?
frankly You have no reason to complain,
that' s the usual approach in answering , when seeing a <badly posed> question
look at the posters skills and make the appropriate comments
that' s just part of the hacker's culture
the point is, if You claim certain skills You should be able at least to talk about the issues You ask about

it would be good for You to read and meditate on
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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