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bharath.kalli

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4
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Hi,

I am unable to use F1/F2 commands in 3.4 option to access FILEAID.

If I use F1 option in 3.4 option to browse a dataset in fileaid, it shows "IKJ56500I COMMAND F1 NOT FOUND".

Can anyone help me to enable these commands?

PS: I also unable to use TSO WHO commands.
I hope these are inbuilt REXX commands
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject:
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Hello and welcome to the forum,

3.4 is not the way to FIleAid. . . FileAid is not part of the standard tso/ispf product - it is an additional product.

Look on your main menu or some sub-menu for FileAid.

F1 is the help key - why/how do you want to use f1 in 3.4?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject:
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

I know 3.4 is not the way to Fileaid. There is a traditional way to access the fileaid from menu or some sub-menu.

But my problem is "you have the datasets listed in 3.4 option. You want to access a particular dataset in fileaid browse/edit mode by putting F1/F2 commands infront of the dataset. But if I put F1 and press enter, this is the message shown "IKJ56500I COMMAND F1 NOT FOUND".

I hope now you can understand the problem.
F1, F2 macros are disabled.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Bharath,

For using F1/F2 file-aid cmmands infront of the dataset, please check that your CLIST lib which is usually your userid.Clist. Inside this clist lib ,check Is there any clist or rexx code for F1/F2 and other file-aid commands like F32,F33 are present or not, if not present then please check with any of your peers in which these cmds are working and copy this cmd to your clist lib. which will work after you login again.

Same for TSO WHO:-It should also be present in your Clist or rexx lib.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject:
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bharath.kalli -- Well, were F1 and F2 are the commands you've used earlier on some other shop? Why do you stress on them - why not FAB (an edit macro at one of my shop, for the very purpose you talk about. )

The text you post in double-inverted commas, where does that come from?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

Open FileAid in one screen. Open 3.4 in another screen.

From the 3.4 dataset list, "select" the dsn you want.
Toggle to the FileAid screen.
Paste the dsn into the FileAid screen.
Do whatever. . .

Or create a new F1, F2, whatever to do what you want from the 3.4 screen. Most systems do not have the F1/F2 you mention.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4
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Hi,

TSO WHO member is available in the CLIST library.

But again if i try to use this command, it throws the following error.

"IKJ56500I COMMAND WHO NOT FOUND".

Can anyone help me to enable this command?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO
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bharath.kalli wrote:
TSO WHO member is available in the CLIST library.
Is that library concatenated to the SYSPROC/SYSEXECs of your profile?

If that is not the case, look here to know how to do that:
http://ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?t=5446
http://www.ibmmainframes.com/about6467.html
http://ibmmainframes.com/about5446.html

BUT, the way you have asked the questions so far - doing so might lead you to other consequences - Suggest you please get in touch with someone at your shop to get those shop-specific commands working for you.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

If WHO is intended for general use, it should be in one of the "standard" libraries that are allocated at logon.

As Anuj suggests, you dshould talk with the people who support tso/ispf.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4
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Hi All,

Thanks for the reply.

If that is the case,
. Why not I try to write a REXX program for enabling TSO WHO/WHICHLOD commands?
. Why not I try to concatenate those into my ISPF profile?
. Also, Why not I try to execute a REXX program for enabling FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4 ISPF option?
But before all that, I need to know "Is it really possible without contacting the administrator?".

Please let me know.
If it is possible, kindly post the steps how to do it?
Since, I'm not acquainted with REXX.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4
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why do You refuse to ask Your support?

as a general point
if You have the need to know/do anything Your support will be glad/will have to help You
if You do not ( have the need ... ), trying to do it by Yourself will only get you into trouble

Quote:
If it is possible, kindly post the steps how to do it?

No, it is not possible to give You any advice,
we do not know anything about Your environment, Your setup, Your organization rules
give the last point it is also unwise

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Since, I'm not acquainted with REXX.

then You would not need only the steps, but also the coding!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO
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bharath.kalli wrote:
But before all that, I need to know "Is it really possible without contacting the administrator?".
Okay, don't contact them, BUT be warned, trying it your own might be a suicidal attempt, at times!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply to: how to enable FILEAID commands F1/F2 from TSO 3.4
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posting a solution just for a reference as I too have problems when i shift shops icon_lol.gif

Below are the steps I follow to enable F1,F2,F33, etc.
1. Go to FileAid (any option say 1) and fire commands like F2, F33, F35 on the command line. It should take you to the respective screens. Keep the FileAid session open for the below steps.
2. On the command line fire 'START TSO ISRDDN'.
3. On the following screen fire 'M F1'.
4. It will try to search a member name as 'F1' and it will show wherever the component is found. Generally these are FileAid modules so they are available in the FileAid PDS. e.g. SYS1.FILEAID.****.
5. Go to that PDS using 3.4, there you will find other members as well viz. F2, F33, etc. Copy these members in your CLIST PDS; which is your personal SYSPROC lib.

Enjoy
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject:
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bhavin.mehta

What the hell is "fire a command"? From my 5 tours in Vietnam i got a lot of times the command "FIRE", that what you mean?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject:
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@PeterHolland

no offence, but I just mean that - 'type the command and hit enter'
If its not valid word, I wont use it on this forum icon_biggrin.gif

by the way, did this trick work for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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bhavin.mehta,

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by the way, did this trick work for you?


Of course not, why would i work with tools that don't fulfill my needs?

And by the way the FileAid libraries should be allocated with your normal ISPF datasets at FileAid start time and deallocated at FileAid end time.

Something wrong with the FileAid implementation people?
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