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Can unique RACF ID's be assigned to jobs?

 
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superk

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Can unique RACF ID's be assigned to jobs?
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This may sound like an odd question, but can unique RACF ID's be assigned to jobs? Currently, all batch jobs are scheduled by CA-7 and they all carry the same RACF ID as the CA-7 task. It lets us know that it's a production job, but it gives us no details about who the job belongs to. I was thinking that if groups of jobs could be given a unique RACF ID then it would be easy to correctly route incident tickets to the proper teams if they should fail.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject:
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Yes, it can be done using SURROGATE.

I can't for the life of me recall how it was done at my last site, but it was done like that for security reasons so that no ONE job could wipe out everything in one hit.

Sorry that I can't remember much else, but at least it's a place to start.
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Hi Guys,

Once upon a time i recall places using the "accounting information" to trace back to a dept or user. Might this be of use?

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/handheld/Connected/BOOKS/iea2b690/20.2.1
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:13 am    Post subject:
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some links to ibmsystems magazine about racf, may or may not be germane.

http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/9966p1.aspx

http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/novemberdecember06/tipstechniques/9960p1.aspx


http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary07/tipstechniques/11897p1.aspx

http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/marchapril07/tipstechniques/12532p1.aspx
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject:
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In my company the jobname determined the application support group.
So incident tickets went to the proper teams.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Can unique RACF ID's be assigned to jobs?
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Peter, its been that way in every company I've ever worked for up until the current one. The only requirement here is that the first character be a 'P" for Production and that the last character indicate frequency (D, W, R, M, or X). Beyond that, since the developers create and support jobs instead of the Production Support team, they can use whatever they want for the rest.
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Peter, its been that way in every company I've ever worked for up until the current one. The only requirement here is that the first character be a 'P" for Production and that the last character indicate frequency (D, W, R, M, or X)



superk,

We had a construction like that too, Being the first character the frequency, and character 2, 3 the application code.
RACF looked at the application code to see if datasets, load libraries were
allowed to be allocated, users couldnt submit production jobs if the jobname didnt start with a userid and no production datasets were allocated.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject:
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I do not have experience with these things, however, please check if this helps: Associating started procedures and jobs with user IDs.
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It can be a good idea to distribute authorisations among different technical users, but may be not for identifying the maintenance responsible for a job.

My site has for years used TWS (OPC) information for distributing problem tickets when jobs (operations) went on error.
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