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Sudhir KL
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Hi,
I was editing my userid.ISPPROF(ISRPROF) member
from other TSO ID...This member got deleted by mistake.
I revoked the RACF for the TSO ID that i used to edit the member.
Now, when i try...I am unable to get into ISPF editor.
Please help me copy ISRPROF member from other TSO profile into my profile
I tried SORT, IEBGENER jcl's by giving USER=*** and PASSWORD=**** in the jobcard
Thanks,
Sudhir
No luck. Please help |
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Kjeld
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What is the message when you try to start the editor?
I am not sure if you can use a ISPF profile copied from another user, without problems. If you start ISPF without a profile, I think a default one is created for you, but it may the contain values for your specific user account, which makes it unusable for other userids. |
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Sudhir KL
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I am sure i can use other ID's ISPF profile. i have tried this. i just need to find a way how to copy it into my dataset.
This is the message I get.........
ISPI002 Following file could not be opened:
ISPPROF
READY |
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Kjeld
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| You might be able to do the copying from your TSO command line, if you can get into TSO before ISPF opens, or if you free the profile data set from the command line and then reallocate it. |
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Sudhir KL
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I am unable to go to TSO command line
It used to directly go to ISPF screen |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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I am unable to go to TSO command line
It used to directly go to ISPF screen |
when you are in ispf, simply pf3 or x and you will be returned to native tso. |
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Sudhir KL
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| I cannot get into ISPF not TSO |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| Sudhir KL wrote: |
I was editing my userid.ISPPROF(ISRPROF) member
from other TSO ID...This member got deleted by mistake. |
If the member is in such a PDS whose HLQ is your ID (RACF ID), some other ID should not be able to delete the member in that PDS?  |
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Pedro
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| I was editing my userid.ISPPROF(ISRPROF) member from other TSO ID... |
I do not think you are allowed to edit profile members. There is binary information contained and the structures are not documented.
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| I revoked the RACF for the TSO ID that i used to edit the member. |
I have no idea why you would need to revoke that TSO id.
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| Now, when i try...I am unable to get into ISPF editor. |
This is a vague error description. Are there any error messages? Any symptoms?
HSM should have a backup of the dataset. Try HRECOVER with REPLACE option.
Try this from TSO READY:
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ALLOC F(ISPPROF) REUSE LIKE('your.ispprof') SPACE(1 1) TRACKS |
Then get into ISPF and try your copies. |
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Sudhir KL
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1. I was able to edit from other TSO ID coz...I had given RACF privelege ALTER to the ID. ..and I was not logged In in my TSO ID
2. Later, I deleted the RACF dataset profile that contained RACF privelege to the other TSO ID. Then on ...I was not able to edit my profile
Below the message I got when I tried
"ALLOC F(ISPPROF) REUSE LIKE('your.ispprof') SPACE(1 1) TRACKS "
ALLOC F(ISPPROF) REUSE LIKE dataset('USERID.ispprof') SPACE(1 1) TRACKS
ENTER MODEL DATASET NAME -
'USERID.ispprof'
DATA SET USERID.ISPPROF NOT ALLOCATED+
IGD308I DATA SET ALLOCATION REQUEST FAILED -
RACF FUNCTION: RACDEF FOR
DATA SET: USERID.ISPPROF WITH RETURN CODE 08 REASON CODE 04
OMVS - Enter a TSO/E command, or press PA1 to return to the shell. |
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Sudhir KL
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Can someone please tell me how I add RACF dataset profile ( From TSO)
and then grant ALTER permission to another user ..
so that he can refresh my ISRPROF member |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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| how I add RACF dataset profile |
unless you are a RACF Administrator,
your game is up
and you will have to explain to someone
WHY WERE YOU TRYING TO MODIFY YOUR ISRPROF
and also explain why you were using another users ID
I am not sure if this is a tragedy or a comedy.... |
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Robert Sample
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Lessons to be learned:
Rule 1: do not directly edit ISRPROF
Rule 2: if you do mess it up, contact your site support group immediately
Rule 3: if you don't contact your site support group, don't post on a forum and expect to be told how to issue commands you probably do not have authority to issue to fix a problem you should not have had anyway
Bottom line: contact your site support group (security administrator) and get their help in unscrambling this mess you've created. |
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Sudhir KL
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Hurrahhh
Finally I got it. This is what i did...
1)
Added Dataset profile...
ADDSD 'USERID.**' UACC(ALTER) AUDIT(ALL(ALTER))
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TSO PERMIT USERID.** ID(USER1) ACCESS(ALTER) CLASS(DATASET) GEN
From the other TSO ID refreshed ISRPROF
Presto!!!! All is Well
Thanks a ton for all you guys!!!! |
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dick scherrer
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| I am not sure if this is a tragedy or a comedy.... |
Depends on whose system this is permitted. . .
If on their system a comedy.
On most systems i've been involved with since security was implemented, this is one of the cardinal security sins and people have been dismissed for playing permission games with multiple userids. I guess it could be a tragedy for the ones dismissed, , ,
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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| Sudhir KL wrote: |
| Presto!!!! All is Well |
The GREAT ESCAPE |
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Phrzby Phil
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| would HRECOVER have worked? |
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Pedro
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| I do not think you are allowed to edit profile members. |
I meant that, even you have permission, you should not do it.
Regarding:
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"ALLOC F(ISPPROF) REUSE LIKE('your.ispprof') SPACE(1 1) TRACKS "
ALLOC F(ISPPROF) REUSE LIKE dataset('USERID.ispprof') SPACE(1 1) TRACKS
ENTER MODEL DATASET NAME -
'USERID.ispprof' |
LIKE and DATASET are different parameters... you seemed not to issue the command in the way I suggested. And you should have replaced the name with the actual ds name that you were editing. |
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Marso
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| Sudhir KL wrote: |
I was editing my userid.ISPPROF(ISRPROF) member
from other TSO ID...This member got deleted by mistake.
I revoked the RACF for the TSO ID that i used to edit the member.
Now, when i try...I am unable to get into ISPF editor.
Please help me copy ISRPROF member from other TSO profile into my profile
I tried SORT, IEBGENER jcl's by giving USER=*** and PASSWORD=**** in the jobcard |
| Sudhir KL wrote: |
| I am sure i can use other ID's ISPF profile. i have tried this. i just need to find a way how to copy it into my dataset. |
| Sudhir KL wrote: |
| I am unable to go to TSO command line |
| Sudhir KL wrote: |
| I cannot get into ISPF not TSO |
| Sudhir KL wrote: |
| I was able to edit from other TSO ID coz...I had given RACF privelege ALTER to the ID. |
| Sudhir KL wrote: |
Hurrahhh
Finally I got it.
Presto!!!! All is Well
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Definitely a tragedy!
...or a Bollywood movie (there is a happy ending after all).
Reedited: The GREAT ESCAPE!!! Dick, I loved that!!! |
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expat
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| Phrzby Phil wrote: |
| would HRECOVER have worked? |
Yes, recover the dataset to a newname and then copy in the missing member. That would have been my choice of recovery. |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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| would HRECOVER have worked? |
but the TS may not have had authority to do that |
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Sudhir KL
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| Sudhir KL wrote: |
I am sure i can use other ID's ISPF profile. i have tried this. i just need to find a way how to copy it into my dataset.
This is the message I get.........
ISPI002 Following file could not be opened:
ISPPROF
READY |
RCA...
Dataset profile 'myuserid.**' was deleted from RACF.
The reason I tried editing ISRPROF member is coz... I was not able to Edit KEYS.
If I type KEYS in ISPF and hit Enter, it says, "Updates not allowed". Any Idea what might be the reason and how to fix it?
BTW...I have authority for both ID's  |
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dbzTHEdinosauer
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have you tried the point and shoot dropdowns at the top of the screen
of primary panel?
what is your version of ISPF |
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enrico-sorichetti
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why don' t You start from scratch ?
after all the messing You have done, to find out why something does not work is impossible
have somebody with the proper authorities rename Your profiles to a backup copy
USER1.ISPF.PROFILE ==> USER1.ISPF.PROFILE.ORIGINAL
USER2.ISPF.PROFILE ==> USER2.ISPF.PROFILE.ORIGINAL
allocate two new
USER1.ISPF.PROFILE
USER2.ISPF.PROFILE
start with a clean ISPF profile and try to copy things from the ORIGINAL ones
and since You say You have the proper authorities to update both datasets
start using for example USER2 to copy/Replace things
from USER1.ISPF.PROFILE.ORIGINAL to USER1.ISPF.PROFILE
after some logoff/logons of USER1 You might be able to rebuild the original profile to a working state
anyway ISPF profile should be expendable!
in my too many years of MVS and zOS losing an ISPF profile was never an issue
and since I would do lots of experiments I used to start quite often with a clean ISPF profile
without any loss of productivity |
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Sudhir KL
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| dbzTHEdinosauer wrote: |
have you tried the point and shot dropdowns at the top of the screen
of primary panel?
what is your version of ISPF |
Checked "point and shoot options". You can only edit color here.
ISPF: 5.9.0000
I want to update KEYS panel |
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