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boo_sri

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: DB2 DBA Next Level
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I've completed my DBA certification (Exam 702) last year. I'd like to know the best available option or next steps after the 702 exam. I would like pursue my career as DB2 solution expert and I want to know the best available path to reach there.

700--> 702 ---> ? < Next Steps> = System Expert

Please don't disappoint me by giving links to IBM sites. I need some experts' advice.

Thanks,
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:46 am    Post subject:
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Hello,

None of the DB2 "System Expert"s i know have any certification. . .

They do have lots and lots of experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply to: DB2 DBA Next Level
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Hi,

I am preparing for Db2 702.Can you please suggest me the materials and if any useful links.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject:
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hi dick,

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None of the DB2 "System Expert"s i know have any certification. . .


so according to u certification is not at all worth???
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply to: DB2 DBA Next Level
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certification <certificates> that You know the answers to the quizzes
not that You have the skill to do the job

and the number of posts asking for the certification questions is a proof of it
they just want to be able to reply to pass the quiz!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject:
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I'll agree with Dick.

I'm not a certified anything. Well maybe except under the mental health act icon_lol.gif

I have met so many people that are supposedly certified in certain areas with no experience at all. A complete and utter waste of time. They couldn't open a door without a three hour course in operating door handles.

Experience is King !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject:
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Certification doesn't make you an expert. experience does.

I guess certification is usefull as a starter (<5y), to prove you're willing to invest.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject:
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Often 'experience' is equivalent to 'certification'.

especially with mainframes,
you have many of us that have been working for 20-30 years
and have not taken the time for certification, because there was no need.
many, though, have because the companies required the certification.

if you have no or little experience, without certification, no one will hire you.

so it depends on your situation - whether your potential employer wants to see the certification or not.
as well as if you want to work for 1 company or work/travel as a consultant.

to those of you who have introductory certifications, i would continue to apply for higher level certification.
The introductory certs only provide you with the means of navigating thru db2 manuals - knowledge of terms, definitions of db2 offerings.

If I were on the cert trail, I would not stop until I had at least a 3rd or 4th level certification.
To understand what a 3rd or 4th level certification is,
I refer you to the IBM websites that you do not want to look-at.

To those who think certification is a replacement for 15-20 years of experience - good luck.

but, if you have little or no experience, the only way you will be
able to quickly acquire that experience is being certified so that you can get a job.

oh, and another thing.
an expert is someone who has a great deal of knowledge/experience in 'a field'.
being an expert dba does not necessary mean one has the expertise to anticipate and predict the job market........
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject:
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hi dbzTHEdinosauer,
tats fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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so according to u certification is not at all worth???
Once upon a time, certification required qualification. . . As in the Novell certification (CNE-iirc). If one was certified by Novell, it said the person was very qualified.

Then along came Win-certifications - a bunch of them. These only proved one could answer test questions. Many were certified with no experience whatsoever (knew one place that "guaranteed" certification if one successfully completed their "boot camp" - while in boot camp, the "students" never even sat at a Server Admin termnal. . .). I've been several places that had security walk incompetent people out the door. Personally, i blame their interviewing practice and interviewers for the bad choices - the candidate had no idea they were so totally unqualified, they thought they were ready. The interviewers also knew nothing and only had a "canned" list of questoins and answers. It is my understanding that Windows certifications have improved, but i haven't seen this personally yet (less people seem to be sitting for these tests than 10 years ago?).

I don't yet have an opinion on any of the db2 certifications. Possibly because i don't know anyone who has one. . . If i retire one day, maybe then i'll get certified at some things. . . icon_wink.gif
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