Get and delete the versions of PDS members

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Hi All,

How can we get the versions of PDS members?? And how to delete those versions.

I know when we do any edit with the PDS it creates versions.

Thanks
Shreejita

Robert Sample · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:29 pm

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Hi

Thanks for prompt reply...

can u be specific how to make statistic on in 3.4 option??

Regards
Shreejita

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Hi

If statistic is on then how to refer the old member?????

Thanks
Shreejita

expat · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:52 pm

What do you mean by old member ?

Robert Sample · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:09 pm

Version in ISPF refers to the number of times the member has been modified. There is no archival history available of previous changes -- only the count of the number of times changes have been made. There is no "old memeber" to access -- this is PDS not GDG.

neontech · New User Joined: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Location: mumbai

Keep using PF11 for futher details on the PDS
Hitting PF11 will not return the desired info, but it might be entertaining.

expat · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:34 pm

neontech

Would I be correct in thinking that you have recently gained your first job in IT.

If you wish to productively participate in the forum, please take the time to read and understand the problems encountered rather than giving non related or non productive answers.

neontech · New User Joined: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 11 Location: mumbai

Expat.. i have been working since 5 years.. so you are wrong in telling that its my first IT job ... anyways... the version no.s can be browsed for a particular pds.. if we go PF11 .. every details pertaining to the pds member..

I am here to participate and have healthy discussion.. hope u understand

Robert Sample · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:02 pm

Shreejita: if you are editing a member and type "stats on" on the command line, it will turn statistics on. "stats off" will turn them off. Use the "profile" command to determine whether they are on or off. All these are primary commands and not line commands.

neontech: your answers so far have (a) not been responsive to the asked question, and (b) incomplete to the point of being useless. If Shreejita is in an edit session already, and hits PF11 (even repeatedly as you suggest), what happens? PF11 can provide member statistics data only so long as the person has gone to ISPF 3.4, entered a PDS, and done a member list on it. Otherwise, what's the point of shifting right while editing the data (assuming, of course, that the default PF key assignments have not been changed)?

expat · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:22 pm

Thank you Robert, for expressing my thoughts in more eloquent and kindly manner than I believe that I would have done.

Robert Sample · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:33 pm

You're welcome, expat -- always glad to help out on a rainy day (at least here -- up to 2 MORE inches of rain are expected and we're 16 inches above normal for the year as of yesterday)!

Anuj Dhawan · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:37 pm

dbzTHEdinosauer · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:48 pm

Anuj,

unless you are just messing with the 'old rookie',

when you are viewing a ds list in 3.4, if you scroll right (normally PF11),
additional details about the ds's are provided.

when you are viewing a pds member list,
either by line commands e/v/b on ds list of 3.4
or
by ispf options 1 or 2

if you scroll right (normally pf11), additional details about the pds members will be displayed.

Bill Dennis · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:18 pm

While old members are not archived or normally accessible, there are tools to recover prior versions in a normal PDS (non-PDSE) that has not been compressed. The old members exist in the "gas" and the utilities find them and restore a directory pointer to them.

The PDS Tool is on the Use [URL] BBCode for External Links website.

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Hi All,

Good see a hot discussion..Thanks all for the help.

One more doubt i have that when i see with PF11 i see the version along with other details. Plz explain those too.

Anuj Dhawan · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:00 pm

Dick, it looks like I still need to learn a lot more to be a gladiator...

Robert Sample · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:51 pm

From the ISPF User's Guide Volume 1:

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Hi

Thanks for the help. Really helpful.

But one doubt when i change the member with added lines only the modification i.e MM is getting changed but not VV. When the version will be changed??

Thanks for the support.
shreejita

Robert Sample · Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:58 pm

Version will be changed only when you reset the ISPF statistics and specify a new version number -- I don't think it will automatically change, although I haven't verified that in a manual.

Terry Heinze · Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:31 am

You can manually modify the current VV.MM using the LEVEL command. I don't have access to a mainframe at present but you should be able to look it up. (F1 is your friend).

shreejita · New User Joined: 16 Aug 2009 Posts: 60 Location: chennai

Thanks all

For the support u have given.

Regards
Shreejita