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Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.

 
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radhikavasu

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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To execute rexx Macros we will have a clist and at the same time to execute macros,Pannels,Messages we will create a member like USRALLOC and give the datasets names where the macros are and where the pannels are..... In the same way in PSI Mainframes we have Clist but I am not able to have member like USRALLOC to execute all.I have to include the macrocs in the clist and only those macros will be executed. I mean I am trying to create a member that has all these datasets and can be used globally. Please help me in that.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:53 am    Post subject:
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Hello and welcome to the forum,

Please explain "PSI Mainframe".

Also, USRALLOC is not an IBM mainframe term. Please clarify this as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Your post is a bitconfusing...

a PSI emulated mainframe will look to the guest system as real iron..
maybe with a different CPC SI, and a different LPAR name,

the customization for TSO will not change...

zOS and friends behavior is the same whatever the underlying hardware is,
a real mainframe or an emulated one FLEX, UMX, PSI, hercules, ...

by the way, how did Your organization get a licence to run zOS on an emulation platform icon_question.gif icon_cool.gif
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Please explain "PSI Mainframe".
Hi Dick!
its an emulation architecture of IBM mainframes running on the HP itanium platform
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/02/ibm_buys_psi/

if You are curious about the various emulators You can search for
FLEX from fundamental software http://www.funsoft.com
UMX... well ... http://www.isham-research.co.uk/roundtrip.html

or look at http://openmainframe.org/
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Hi Enrico,

Thanks for the info icon_smile.gif

I went and looked a bit online yesterday and decided i didn't know enough to technically reply, so i asked a couple of questions to clarify.

Thought we'd hear from Radhika but we haven't icon_sad.gif

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Dick, PSI is a type of mainframe server. Ok we can leave abt the PSI what exactly I am looking is I want to create a member in CLIST suppose the meber is USRALLOC and the USRALLOC has this code.
* ---------------------- TSO USER ALLOCATION LIST ----------------------
*
MESSAGEOFF
* MESSAGEON
*. USING USRALLOC
*
SYSEXEC * /* LOCAL EXEC LIBRARIES.
'X142025.T.TZ.SYSEXEC'
*

and 'X142025.T.TZ.SYSEXEC' will contain the Rexx macros. So that whwn even we login automatically the macros will work for that id. But in this server its not working. we are not able to create the member in clist to have the REXX Macro PDS in that.we have to write the macros in the CLIST itself. If any one have an idea abt this please answer.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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not enough info ...

the data posted is not a CLIST or REXX script...

is just some data which gets processed by ...
You should know by what and how, we do not

the whole process is part of Your organization setup, so we do know little about it
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Ok we can leave abt the PSI

why ? are You embarassed to talk about it icon_cool.gif
we did not start talking about it, You did
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject:
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Hello,

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what exactly I am looking is I want to create a member in CLIST suppose the meber is USRALLOC and the USRALLOC has this code.
* ---------------------- TSO USER ALLOCATION LIST ----------------------
*
MESSAGEOFF
* MESSAGEON
*. USING USRALLOC
*
SYSEXEC * /* LOCAL EXEC LIBRARIES.
'X142025.T.TZ.SYSEXEC'
*
Usually "code" does not refer to itself. . .

Where is the info you posted stored? Where was it copied from for this topic? What "processes" this "code" - i am not familiar with that syntax?

Is this something that is used on your IBM mainframe successfully?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Hi Dick!
not a standard by any means,

its just a local setup procedure consisting of
a file with actions , ddnames and relative dsnames
a driver that could be a CLIST or a REXX... which reads the file and for each line takes the appropriate action

seen it, done it , if You want a sample I can post it

the info posted is not enough to give any help...
unless the driver script is also posted
and the messages issued when running against the posted data

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is this something that is used on your IBM mainframe successfully?

it' s not running on an IBM mainframe, just on an emulated one
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Hi Enrico,

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it' s not running on an IBM mainframe, just on an emulated one
Wonder how the original (on the IBM mainframe) was done?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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... But in this server its not working. we are not able to create the member in ...


Not enough details to debug your problem. What happens when you try to create a member? Where are you creating the member?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Wonder how the original (on the IBM mainframe) was done?
maybe in the same way...

a TSO session ( tn3270 ) with an MVS ipled under the hercules emulator ( for example ) running on my mac book pro
will not look or feel different from a TSO session with a real mainframe
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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Not enough details to debug your problem. What happens when you try to create a member? Where are you creating the member?


Usually for this kind of approach the TSO logon procedure just contains
a steplib for the loads that cannot be loaded from an ISPLLIB
a sysproc that might even contain just the driver CLIST/REXX
a parameter dataset which contains user specific parameters and allocation specification

the driver will read the parameter dataset and on each line act accordingly

at the end it will invoke ISPF with a specific panel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply to: Can we have a USRALLOC member in PSI Mainframes.
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That sort of answers where, but I would still like to see the OP's actual response, especially for: "What happens when you try to create a member?"

(actually, I do not need to see it, but you might want to provide if you need help).
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