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vidhyag

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: TSO interface to CICS
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I need to access CICS resource from my ISPF/PDF.Do we have any tools for that or by any way i can implement that.Kinldy suggest on the same.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:57 am    Post subject:
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What do you mean by "access"? You can define and delete resources by calling DFHCSDUP from TSO, and you *might* be able to directly read VSAM files CICS is using and there are probably means to initiate transactions though I have no idea how or if that works.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject:
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I need to browse the transactions,programs,maps/to define the transactions,programs,maps from ISPF without login the cics region.Without submitting the jobs i need to achieve it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply to: TSO interface to CICS
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the terminology is a bit approximate ( understatement )
but going with it

You cannot browse a transaction
to browse a program, look at the source libraries
same for a map

to define resources You have two alternatives
1) submit a batch job for DFHCSDUP utility with the proper control cards
2) do interactively from cics ( logon to the cics application )

after all You should realize that Your question does not make too much sense

if You want better answers learn to post better questions
You say "I need" , who set such a silly requirement ??
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply to: TSO interface to CICS
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Hi vidhyag

Try to understand the SYSTEM. TSO and CICS are working under different Address Space. To know the details of different sub systems, either you have to logon to the subsystem or use a mediator(DFHCSDUP in the case of CICS). TSO's ISPF/PDF can not read any data from CICS CSD file.
Are you posting this for the sake of posting, or is this an interview question?

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Raghu
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply to: TSO interface to CICS
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You certainly can get to the CSD from TSO without submitting a batch job. A couple of weeks ago I had to do exactly that to create some test resources and simply created DFHCSDUP input, allocated the required ddnames and called DFHCSDUP. Put some ISPF panels around that and it is very easy to define and delete transactions, programs or other resources. This won't install or discard resources but it will define/delete them. Your id is still checked for security purposes. It would be a security joke if the workaround to get into a system was to log in to TSO and run a common program.

There are utilities for getting resource lists also that I haven't used in many years, but like almost any other programs that can run in batch, they too can be run under TSO.

The only thing you have to be aware of is that if anyone is in CEDA when you run DFHCSDUP, it will faill, but you can just read the output with EXECIO and look for the appropriate DFHxxxxx message to see if that is why it failed. Of course, that same restriction exists for CEDA itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject:
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If you want to perform CEDA functionality from batch (including INSTALL),
there is a software product that will allow you to execute CEDA and control navigation using your own COBOL program logic.

http://cicswiki.org/cicswiki1/index.php?title=How_do_I_interact_with_a_transaction_from_a_batch_program%3F#3rd_party_Vendor_Software
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