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raj12vel
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Hi all,
Can any one please tell me how to copy all the versions of one GDG to another GDG?  |
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Robert Sample
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| One IEBGENER per version works pretty good; just run them one copy job at a time. |
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superk
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| raj, you're only allowed to have one version (V00-V99) per generation (G0001 - G9999). What do you mean by "all the versions"? |
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raj12vel
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Hi,
For example, if i have 20 versions (V01-V20) for one GDG and i want to copy all the 20 versions to an another GDG file which also have 20 empty genrations |
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Robert Sample
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| 19 of the versions will not be GDG controlled -- they will simply be cataloged files you can copy with IEBGENER. The 20th version will be under GDG control but can still be copied via IEBGENER; you can run one job with 20 steps or 20 jobs to do the copy. If you use one job, the first generation to be output will be (+1), the second will be (+2), and so forth, in your JCL. |
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raj12vel
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| Thanks alot... |
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expat
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Well, I have never seen in 30+ years of MFT / MVS / z/OS anything other that one Vnn of a GDS.
Or is this just another case of people thinking that they know what they are talking about but using the incorrect terminology - because a version and a generation are TOTALLY different elements of a GDS. |
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raj12vel
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Hi,
I understood. I have misused the terminology. I could have said generations instead of versions.
Thank you. |
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expat
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| raj12vel wrote: |
Hi,
I understood. I have misused the terminology. I could have said generations instead of versions.
Thank you. |
I SHOULD have said generations instead of versions.
It is very important that the correct terminology is always used, especially in this case where both generation and version are correct terms in reference to a GDS.
Although you know what you mean we nessecarally may not, unless you use the correct terminology. I have seen threads on this board that took about 15-20 replies before the exact response was elicited.
This is not taking a point against you personally - but if everyone who reads this and takes notice then uses the correct terminology it will make getting correct answers so much easier. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi,
'am lilttle on wrong trcak here I believe... If this
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| have 20 versions (V01-V20) for one GDG |
is true, then I hope he has not
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| misused the terminology |
..Did I miss something..please assist. |
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dick scherrer
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Hi Anuj,
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| ..Did I miss something.. |
I believe not - you are in sync.
Once again the use of version and the use of generation have been treated as being interchangable. I believe there is now understanding that they are not and it it critical to make sure we all use the same (correct) terminology. |
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expat
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Anuj,
just to clarify. Why not define a GDG base and try to create more than one version of the same generation. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Hi Expat,
I understoof your point I think - other GDGs (GDS) will simply be cataloged files actually & only most latest will be under GDG control, so this statement
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is actually meaningless or described in a wrong way. Did I get some marks..Sir..  .. ? |
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expat
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| Anuj D. wrote: |
| Did I get some marks..Sir. |
No, you did not test it.
When a new VERSION of an existing generation is created, the older version is deleted rather than kept. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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I did test it though before posting, but put my self in front in a wrong way..
When I locate G0001V10 first & then G0001V09, only G0001V09 was visible.
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PU2317A.GDG.FOR.EXPAT
PU2317A.GDG.FOR.EXPAT.G0001V09 |
But what I quoted should be true for Non-sms ? Please assist.
PS. Ah just another bad day for me.. |
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Anuj Dhawan
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I believe Robert can also be of some help here..any how he also put the same stuff as mine.
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| 19 of the versions will not be GDG controlled -- they will simply be cataloged files you can copy with IEBGENER. The 20th version will be under GDG control but can still be copied via IEBGENER; |
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expat
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| I believe Robert can also be of some help here..any how he also put the same stuff as mine. |
Maybe he cheated and copied your answers  |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Umm.. this type of topics never seems to have an end..because always (usually) there is one like me is around to make it lengthy..aarghh..  ! |
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expat
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| Yes, I had noticed |
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Anuj Dhawan
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Could not stop to share the laugh..  ,
have a good one, later
-Ad |
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Robert Sample
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| Yeah, I'm psychic and copied Anuj's answer ... all the way around the world, even. |
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dick scherrer
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| I'm psychic and copied . . . all the way around the world, even. |
Is there an extra charge for this or is it automagically covered |
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Robert Sample
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| Let me check my wallet ... hmmm .... yep, extra charge is needed! (Hey, I'm going to Paris in February and gotta pay for everything somehow!) |
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Anuj Dhawan
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| Robert Sample wrote: |
| ..all the way around the world, even. |
Perfect eye-sight 6 by 6.. |
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expat
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| Robert Sample wrote: |
| Let me check my wallet ... hmmm .... yep, extra charge is needed! (Hey, I'm going to Paris in February and gotta pay for everything somehow!) |
Oh boy, one of the most expensive european cities and you only get 0.7 euro per USD. I would put in a lot of overtime if I were you.
Or hope that Anuj finally settles his account |
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