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usharaniA

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:40 pm
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I've deleted a member from the pds now i want to recover it, i used HLIST coomand but i don't have authority access to use it, and also i dont remeber the member name.
Now is there anything like user actions logs to see my action that i have performed, so i can see the member name.
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expat

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:22 pm
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Almost certainly not. Even SMF data doesn't go down to member level of detail
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Bill Dennis

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:27 pm
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There is a new subtype 21 for the type 42 that tracks member delete.
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MBabu

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:22 am
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If it is a PDS and not a PDSE, you can get the member back if you have not compressed the data set. The old PDS utility from the CBT tape, STARTOOLS and maybe others (Fileaid?) can do it.
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usharaniA

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:02 am
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Hi Bill Dennis,
can you please elaborate what you have said because i cant understand anything.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:33 am
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Hello Usha,

System activity is recorded in SMF records. Different record types hold different information. The type 42 record has a new 21 subtype that records activity (i.e. delete) of a member.

This might help you identify the name of the deleted member. It would not however recover the member.

Is there a chance that there is a recent backup of the pds? If there is a copy of the pds, you should be able to restore it to some new name and rescue the deleted member.
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usharaniA

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:05 pm
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Thanks dick,
Can you provide me the link to find this SMF records using the program DFSORT in JCL.
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usharaniA

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:39 pm
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Hi,
I have some flat files like userid.ISP****.BACKUP in my DSLIST. what are they?.
Can i able to trace my deleted member in this flat files?
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:35 pm
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I have some flat files like userid.ISP****.BACKUP in my DSLIST. what are they?.


how are we supposed to know? by grace icon_cool.gif
ask Your peers
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Bill Dennis

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:26 pm
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usharaniA wrote:
I have some flat files like userid.ISP****.BACKUP in my DSLIST. what are they?.
Those are ISPF datasets created when you EDIT with "RECOVERY ON". The changes you make are tracked so that you can "UNDO" them. I dont think you can use these to recreate the member but you might browse them to see the old data for cut and paste.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:33 am
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Hello,

Quote:
Can you provide me the link to find this SMF records using the program DFSORT in JCL.
This is the link to the DFSORT "Smart Tricks" one of which is using dfsort to process smf records:
www-304.ibm.com/systems/support/storage/software/sort/mvs/tricks/pdf/sorttrck.pdf

This is the link to the SMF manual that contains the info about the various record types (including the 42/21 Bill mentioned):
publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea2g281.pdf
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enrico-sorichetti

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:48 am
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how are we supposed to know? by grace


must have been having a brain check, icon_sad.gif

but ( lame excuse ) I never work with recovery on...
on the long run I have always had more troubles than benefits
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usharaniA

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:59 am
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Thanks lot for all your replies.
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dick scherrer

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:31 am
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You're welcome icon_smile.gif

Hopefully, some progress has been made.

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