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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Limited spool size
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hi ,all

In my environment, the spool size has been limited. Now i have to run some job which will generate much output. I have specify the huge SYSOUT to my own dataset. But the job still end after some time. I found the LOG and some other option in SDSF are very small. But the MESSAGE option seems own many lines. I wanna specify the MESSAGE to my own dataset also. Is it possible? or what is the dd name of the MESSAGE in job?

Thx in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply to: about the spool size
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please explain better,
it would be strange to have a never ending job icon_confused.gif
You are not giving any info to work on

the people to talk to, seem to be the support people
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject:
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sorry...in fact that is some ftp job. There exist many many PUT commands. In the beginning the job runs ok. But after some time the job ends without many PUT command excuting while the MaxCC is zero.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject:
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something like
SYSOUT DD DSN=my own dataset
SYSPRINT DD DSN=my own dataset
I have specified the SYSOUT and SYSPRINT to my own dataset. Does that mean my job will not be limited by the spool size?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply to: about the spool size
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please please,
when You ask for help try to impersonate the people who listen,
and meditate on what they can understand from Your post

if You were on this ( my ) side of the fence what would You be able to do ?

You talk about spool space, sdsf log....
ftp terminating.. icon_confused.gif
everything is quite confusing

look carefully at the messages, try to understand if there are errors,

FTP does not use spool to stage data ( anyway )
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply to: about the spool size
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if You want help , post what has been asked,
if You just want to vent... create a BLOG

nothing shows that You have a problem, You are just speculating,
to get help You must provide FACTS
that is a sysout/syslog with some messages that can be acted upon

this reading will be most useful on help You get useful answers
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject:
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sorry for my unclear description- -''

When we invoke the FTP program in JCL, job will generate much information about the excuting status into SYSOUT. just like

EZA1736I PUT xxxxx' xxxx
EZA1701I >>> SITE FIXrecfm 80 LRECL=80 RECFM=FB BLKSIZE=32720
501 SITE option not supported.
EZA1701I >>> PORT xxx,xxx,xx,xx,xx,xxx
200 PORT Command successful.

Now because I code thousands of PUT commands, I'm worried about if the job will take too much space in spool.
Everytime the job excutes hundreds of PUTs then stop with maxcc=0. And i didn't find error messages. The other PUTs are not excuted.
I don't know if I have explained clearly. -.-'[/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject:
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Why dont you check the server whether all the files have reached there?
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The other PUTs are not excuted

What makes you feel so?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject:
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No...Only some files are transferrd...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply to: about the spool size
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if You code thousandths of put statement You should be a large shop,

given that a ftp put writes let' s say 20 lines...

then for 5000 puts grade school math gives 20 times 5000 = 100000,
if Your spool does not allow that many( few rather ) lines for a job,
than You have bigger problems

again, if You want help, give facts
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply to: about the spool size
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if ....
the job end with return code 0
you do not have any space problems

what do the messages relative to the unsuccessful PUTs say ???

if all the command are executed
and only some files are transferred

if You want help , we need facts
post a snippet of the messages issued for a file that does not get transfered
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:
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I don't want code so many PUT also. - -a
But it is generated by another program.
Any solutions?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject:
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Furion,

any example (30 lines or so of your ftp commands in the jcl) would help.

If each PUT executed generates some kind of EZA.... msg,
and you think that some PUTs are not being executed,
at some point in the sysout, you will find the last PUT processed.
I would then look at the JCL and see if you have inadvertently
generated a line of JCL that is interpreted by JES as EndOfJOB.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject:
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I think you are right. It is possiable. Let me check the program which generates the PUTs commands. Maybe it will remove some PUTs.
Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject:
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I worry about systems where somebody thinks they need to transfers thousands of files from place to place. Maybe I should worry about the analyst instead?

SYSOUT and SYSPRINT are fine but they won't impact the spool output by your FTP job. FTP output in batch jobs goes to DD name OUTPUT which you can redirect to a file, as I've done in the past.

Suggestion: add SENDSITE to your FTP job before your first PUT command. This will keep z/OS from sending the SITE commands which aren't being recognized. That'll cut a couple of lines out of your output for each PUT command.

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Everytime the job excutes hundreds of PUTs then stop with maxcc=0. And i didn't find error messages. The other PUTs are not excuted.
If this is happening, you'll have to post some OUTPUT from FTp around where the PUT commands stopped being done for us to help determine what happened.
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