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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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I am submitting some jobs on a particular day. I have actually putted scheduler for these jobs to run after one day when I submit the jobs.

I have noted down there jobid's for those jobs submitted. When I come after couple of days, I have to check those jobs in the spool which I have submitted couple of days back for whether the jobs have completed successfully or not.

But in spool there are so many jobid's and it is difficult for me to find it out the jobid's which I have noted down. I want the jobs, which I have submitted couple of days back should come on top in the spool so that it will be easy for me to check.

Please advise, how can I acheieve this?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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noo way ,
try to isolate by using the filter command
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject:
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I want the jobs, which I have submitted couple of days back should come on top in the spool so that it will be easy for me to check
We can't always get what we want. . . . We can usually get what we need.

If you use a proper prefix, you should be able to limit the jobs returned to a more managable set.

If this is somethng you will do often, i suggest using separate jobnames which will be easy to filter.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject:
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If the jobs run with your userid, use the OWNER <yourID> command to show only those.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject:
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You submit jobs and you come back days after to check for successful completion.

Wwouuaaahh !!! Either they run specially long time or they are not so important.
Never I can submit a job and leave the office. Imagine a loop, a eternal feeding of the JES2 spool, .....

Imagine a friend playing with your jobs ( I mean purge them after the run... ).So what?

All this is not good practice.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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Hello Ped

This is what our requirement is...we do not have the scheduler to schedule these jobs to be submitted after only after certain days.

Actually the jobs should run on weekends, we do not want to come on office on weekends and that is the reason submitting the jobs on Friday itself giving schedule day and time to run these jobs on weekend.

But we wanted to know the status of the jobs after coming on Monday. I have noted down their jobids but its difficult to find the jobs with particular jobids when there are so many jobs in the spool.

When you do not know how to filter the jobids in the spool, please keep your mouth closed. Its not neccessary that you have come accross of all those stuffs in your life.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject:
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When you do not know how to filter the jobids in the spool, please keep your mouth closed. Its not neccessary that you have come accross of all those stuffs in your life.

I am not sure I really understand!!!

But if you use a scheduler, the scheduler should have the status of a processed job. So go in and check there. How many jobs are you running.
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When you do not know how to filter the jobids in the spool, please keep your mouth closed.
What have you seen to hint that there is/was some lack of knowledge? Your frustration is not a license for bad manners. . .

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Its not neccessary that you have come accross of all those stuffs in your life.
Pierre has already seen more "stuffs" that you are ever likely to see.

People here are willing to help you even though your system may not have the best set of tools or people who know how to work fluently within the current environment.

I'd suggest the next time you are that frustrated, type in notepad (rather than the reply editor) and when you have time to calm down, post something more productive.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject:
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First, Thanks Dick.

Second, dear select-mf, even after my surprise, I gave you some track ( back to the scheduler which can keep info ).

Third, I keep thinking some behaviour can be dangerous.

Fourth, I am very proud of my profession, I love it, I know a ton, but I still discover, I STILL LEARN, so be sure you just will never alter my pleasure.

Cheers
Pierre
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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1. So, that means we do not have any tool or utility or some command on the spool that can put the jobids top on the spool which one likes it.

2. I am not blaming here anybody for his/her proffession. When you have so much knowledge on mainframes, then just do not make joke of the questions being asked here. You could have given the solution whatever you have mentioned latter in the very first reply itself which you didn't.

3. When you know tons of things, instead of teaching the demeanour and all, you ought to have given the solutions which is meaningfull.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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this Gentleman is very lucky that He does not work in the same organization
of the other guy who asked how to automate a command to purge all the sysouts every 15 minutes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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When you know tons of things, instead of teaching the demeanour and all, you ought to have given the solutions which is meaningfull.


the solution was already given to You...
use the filter command to limit the number of jobs displayed
use the sort command to order in suitable way...

how in h**l is the system supposed to know that your jobs are to be put at the top of display

it would be nice if people instead of whining would use the facilities available.

we did not have any forum to ask, but we do know about the commands that have to be used icon_evil.gif
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject:
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Last post here from me ( concerning this question ). Too stupid ... to continue and very surprised on such disdain.

My last problem : and I am not joking :
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then just do not make joke of the questions being asked here

Where was my joke? I was serious on what I said. Just a "wwwooouuaaahh"???

Now you can have the last word.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply to: How to get the particular jobid in the spool
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All I can say is enrico-sorichetti has given meaningful reply. Appreciate your help.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject:
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Hats off to all of the GENTLEMEN above (sorry Select-Mf you are not included in this lot) on how patient and restrained you are.

Personally I would not toletare such behaviour and ban him.


Gerry
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